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Re: [RTTY] FREQUENCY IN USE BY ... (JT65/JT9)

To: pcooper <pcooper@guernsey.net>
Subject: Re: [RTTY] FREQUENCY IN USE BY ... (JT65/JT9)
From: Stanley Zawrotny <k4sbz.stan@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2014 15:39:22 -0500
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Greetings to all,

This forum has a very focused audience with a limited mindset, whereas the 
digital aspect of this hobby is very broad. (How many of you subscribe to other 
forums?) RTTY traditionally operates on 20 between 14.080 & 14.100, a range of 
.200. But during the contests, everyone seems to think that they can spread out 
and take over the entire digital band without regard to the other digital 
modes. Thankfully, everyone continues to respect the PSK31 folks, but the JT65 
people, with their one frequency, are now the enemy? Whatever happened to the 
DX Code of Conduct? Or is getting that last few points more important than 
"Respecting my fellow hams and conducting myself so as to earn their respect?" 
Let's give the other guy a break and QSY like a gentleman.

BTW, I operate multiple modes, including, (gasp) SSB (but not Pactor). I also 
wonder when the contests will start including the other digital modes or will 
it always be just SSB, CW and RTTY?

And, no, you won't find me in your log this weekend because I gave up my entire 
weekend to running a Special Event Station. Out of courtesy, We did not operate 
RTTY so as to not cause QRM during the contest.

HNY to all.

Stan, K4SBZ

"Real radio bounces off the sky."

> On Jan 6, 2014, at 12:49 PM, " pcooper" <pcooper@guernsey.net> wrote:
> 
> Hi all, and a very HNY to you all!
> 
> JT65, and JT9, are modes that you can indeed use when RTTY would be 
> inaudible. I prefer JT65 for no apparent reason, but JT9 is certainly more 
> efficient, both in terms of bandwidth, and power levels used.
> I've been using both (but mostly JT65A) for some while now, and it is amazing 
> what you can work when the bands are flat.
> 
> When I first started, I thought it would be good to join the JT-user group on 
> Yahoo. It seemed pertinent, and would be useful in finding out what is good 
> practice.
> 
> Well, that was not my experience of that particular group! They were 
> extremely anti-RTTY, and I when I mentioned that I used both modes, I ended 
> up with more than a few direct emails that were enough to make me decide to 
> un-join the group, and quickly!
> There are several users that specifically use RTTY during a contest to tell 
> folk to clear off the JT65 frequencies. They generally won't provide a 
> callsign, and I saw a couple of users letting others know the best ways to 
> interfere with RTTY signals.
> These are calls I now avoid like the plague when I am using the mode.
> 
> OK, I know it is good practice not to interfere with others users of the 
> band, and it is fair to say that you may often not be able to hear them, 
> which doesn't mean they aren't there, but these few were very anti-RTTY, and 
> made very few comments about CW invading "their space" during the likes of 
> CQWW.
> 
> Simply, it is NOT "their space", as digital modes are allocated a space where 
> you can use whichever mode you choose.
> That does not mean I will intentionally get in their way, but they are a very 
> vociferous lot.
> 
> If you have not yet tried either of these modes, then I can recommend them, 
> as it is an impressive tool.
> I've managed VK/ZL and W6/7/VE7 with just 20 watts of JT65 on 10m when RTTY 
> would simply not work.
> The apps by VK3AMA are extremely useful with either, and can me made to log 
> into your logging software automatically.
> At 5 minutes per QSO, it is not a rate mode, but still useful!
> 
> There, that's my rant, off my chest, and done with.
> 
> 73 de Phil GU0SUP
> 
> 
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