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Re: [RTTY] US call signs (BARTG)

To: "Paul Stoetzer" <n8hm@arrl.net>, <RTTY@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [RTTY] US call signs (BARTG)
From: "Rex Maner" <k7qq@netzero.net>
Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2013 13:34:22 -0000
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The big down fall for me operating in the 7th call area is that the G station won't put any effort into working me as he already has worked a station in AZ over 1500 miles better positioned for propogation into or somone in eastern MT who is physically 1000 miles closer.

Rex  K7QQ

----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Stoetzer" <n8hm@arrl.net>
To: <rtty@contesting.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2013 11:56 AM
Subject: Re: [RTTY] US call signs (BARTG)


In those other contests, I count as an 8th area mult even though,
geographically, I'm in the 3rd call area.

Indeed, you'll get credit for an 8th area mult working me in a BARTG
contest too since I don't sign with a suffix (nor do I submit logs for
those contests)

73,

Paul, N8HM

On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 6:32 AM, Roger Cooke <g3ldi@g3ldi.co.uk> wrote:
That sounds like a complete paradox to me! If they don't add their call area
then how are
we supposed to know where they are and if they are a mult or not?

73 de Confused of Swardeston  Roger, G3LDI

On 09/01/2013 10:53, Paul Stoetzer wrote:

All those contests use US Call Areas as mults, but they don't require
stations to add their correct call area as a suffix.  BARTG is unique in
that outdated requirement.

73,

Paul, N8HM

On 1/9/2013 5:50 AM, pcooper wrote:

Hi all,

Well, thanks for all the responses!
Yes, I do appreciate that the comparison between G, GU etc and W is not a
good one, but it was the only way I could think of explaining it.

Now, several folk kindly emailed me direct to say things like - Yes, but
G.GU etc are different DXCC's, with which I agree.
By the same token, KL7/KH6/KP2 are ALSO different DXCC's, but you still find
some in RTTY contests operating from the "lower 48".
I even got a KH8 in one contest that was on mainland America.

I don't know the answer to this, but does the FCC require that you sign
differently if you are operating away from your home address?
In the UK, if we are operating somewhere other than our designated home
address, we must sign /P for any temporary address, or /A from an
"alternative" address, where the alternative is somewhere designated on our
licence.

Let's say that you are W6XXX operating from Florida, and you enter the BARTG
contest as W6XXX only.
If your log was to be classed as a check-log only, because you weren't
following the rules, would you be annoyed?
Maybe contests that use US call areas as mults ought to enforce this part of
the rule?
Apart from the BARTG contest, there is the EA RTTY contest, DL-DX, DRCG LDC,
SARTG, JARTS, and WAEDC all use US (and some also include VE/JA/VK) call
areas as mults, so please don't just single out BARTG for criticism.

Thanks again for all the comments.

73 de Phil GU0SUP
(definitely in GU!)



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