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Re: [RTTY] 18.110

To: "'RTTY Reflector'" <rtty@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [RTTY] 18.110
From: "Don Hill AA5AU" <aa5au@bellsouth.net>
Date: Mon, 14 May 2012 19:50:31 -0500
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Ron wrote:

"They announce QRX for 5min and the pile still calls...."

There's really nothing wrong with this although I don't do it myself. Yesterday 
when they were working on EU on 17 meters, they said
QRX. A few minutes later when they came back on, they came directly back to a 
W3 station without calling CQ. So a W3 station got
through the EU pileup this way.

What I hate is when the DX comes back to a station and clearly has the other 
station's callsign, but others continue to call. I
understand that on RTTY, more than other modes, you could be transmitting while 
the DX is sending his report and you don't know he
has already come back to someone so you continue to call. But I've watched 
stations who I'm sure have seen the DX come back to
someone only to keep calling. And I also understand that if you don't see the 
callsign of the station the DX is giving a report to,
you might think it's you and you call again. This is not good practice either. 
This happened to me yesterday when 7O6T came back to
me on 17M RTTY. A USA station was calling on the DX station and I only got part 
of my call. Since I wasn't sure, I didn't call
again. I just waited and sure enough they came to me a second time and I got my 
call 100% the second time. There was no need for me
to call again.

The best way to work RTTY DX is to do it by committee with others communicating 
via a 2 meter repeater. This is what we do here and
is probably why at one time we had 8 members of the Delta DX Association on the 
RTTY Honor Roll. When a rare DX station is found on
RTTY, we would announce it on the repeater and call other members on the 
telephone to have them come up on the repeater. Everyone
spreads out and calls the DX (if they are operating split). The first one to 
get through becomes the announcer. The announcer is the
one to then calls out on the repeater when the DX station is transmitting so 
everyone else can drop their transmission. The next
person to get through becomes the spotter. The job of the spotter is to find 
the frequency of the last station worked by the DX. He
announces it when he finds a frequency. This has worked for years and years. 
It's very efficient. Try it, you'll like it.

I was thinking about this the other day. I was the announcer for someone trying 
to make a contact. When the contact was made, I
didn't need to announce anymore, but I thought it would be cool if I could 
announce it on the Internet when the DX was transmitting.
This way, those people still transmitting could drop their transmission and 
listen to who he was working. 

I have also "announced" "somewhat" over the DX Cluster via T TALK but that only 
works for one station. I have also spotted using T
TALK. I suppose this sort of thing could be done over Skype but I haven't 
tried. I'd be willing to do it if some sort of network
could be established. There have to be strict rules like we have on the 
repeater. No other traffic is allowed when we are doing
this.

73, Don AA5AU



-----Original Message-----
From: rtty-bounces@contesting.com [mailto:rtty-bounces@contesting.com] On 
Behalf Of Ron Kolarik
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2012 6:13 PM
To: Kok Chen; RTTY Reflector
Subject: Re: [RTTY] 18.110

Yup, happens a lot on 17m. I finally heard them well enough to try but only 
have about a 2 hour window and now gone. Never mind the
jammers and other assorted vermin what about the pile behavior? They announce 
QRX for 5min and the pile still calls.....yeah, I can
hear the dx just fine....
so much for the DXers Code.

Ron
K0IDT


----- Original Message -----
From: "Kok Chen" <chen@mac.com>
To: "RTTY Reflector" <rtty@contesting.com>
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2012 5:57 PM
Subject: Re: [RTTY] 18.110


>I guess it pays to be out of band.
>
> I just printed the 7O6T working a W9 who had been transmitting out of band 
> for half 
> an hour :-).
>
> On the other hand, a WB6 who is also consistently out of band has no luck yet.
>
> 73
> Chen, W7AY
>
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