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Re: [RTTY] Not to beat the ANTENNA OVERKILL horse...

To: Barry <w2up@mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: [RTTY] Not to beat the ANTENNA OVERKILL horse...
From: K2ZR <ds@dicksteinadvertising.com>
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2006 14:30:03 -0400
List-post: <mailto:rtty@contesting.com>
Sorry Barry:
1) First I'm not whining!
2) Second my contesting skills are quite good but in a major DX contest 
competition I'd never be able to compete with the big antenna guns. This 
is not a whine so don't categorize me or others like me as a "whiner", 
it's the simple truth.
3) Third, yes there is really no way to level the playing field but, 
having a big antenna class and a wires/verticals only class in the three 
key power levels would be nice. As a member of FOC, it's refreshing that 
there are in all of their contests classifications for the bug antenna 
folks, and the wire/verticals folks at all power levels. Somehow a 
highly skilled international group of CW operators like FOC has figured 
out a system to level the playing field.
All the best and 73,
Dick, K2ZR

Barry wrote:

> Sorry, but there is no way to level the playing field.  Even when they 
> try to level it, as in WRTC, some stations are better than others.
>
> If you can't win the contest and it bothers you, either don't operate, 
> or better yet, compete against yourself or a group of self-chosen peers.
>
> For all you SO1R whiners, it's not the second radio or the big 
> antennas that makes you lose, it's the operator.  If K3MM, KI5XP or 
> AA5AU (please don't be insulted if you're a big gun and I left you 
> out, hi) ran 1 radio with tribander, or perhaps even dipoles, he would 
> still beat you.
>
> And last, grow up.  You should know by now life isn't always fair.
>
> 73,
> Barry W2UP
>
> Dick Stein wrote:
>
>>Jerry,
>>Ditto! For sure this is getting out of hand. There is no way I can 
>>compete with super antenna stations running the same amount of power. 
>>New classifications leveling the playing field need to be created.
>>Dick
>>K2ZR
>>650' Center Fed Wire & 425' End Fed Inverted "L" both at 40' to 50'
>>
>>Jerry Flanders wrote:
>>
>>  
>>
>>>HEY, GUYS - BIG ANTENNAS ARE KILLING COMPETITION! Maybe I have a 
>>>chemical imbalance, but I am a bit miffed at the NAQP RTTY scores. I 
>>>looked at the 3830 posted scores that finished above mine in NAQP 
>>>RTTY and noticed the many entries FROM GUYS USING TOWERS AND BEAMS.
>>>
>>>My score, if the stations USING TOWERS AND BEAMS are removed, jumps 
>>>UP. These stations may well have kicked my butt as BECAUSE OF THEIR 
>>>BETTER ANTENNAS, but I will never know for sure. That being said, I 
>>>do have respect for those that have the station and can effectively 
>>>handle an operation WITH THOSE BIG ANTENNAS.
>>>
>>>I think that it is time for the contest sponsors to take a closer 
>>>look at STATIONS USING MULTI-KILOBUCK ANTENNAS as a separate entry 
>>>class.  Entry classifications are to level the field for scoring and 
>>>this is not working.
>>>
>>>Jerry W4UK (with 30-50 ft high dipoles in pine trees)
>>>
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>>> 
>>>
>>>    
>>>
>>
>>  
>>
>
>-- 
>
>Barry Kutner, W2UP             
>Newtown, PA                     
>

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