Hmm, I thought it was $279 list a few months ago.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kevin Knuth" <kknuth@karlnet.com>
To: "Brett Hays" <bretth@htonline.net>; "Karlnet Mailing List"
<karlnet@WISPNotes.com>
Sent: Friday, May 02, 2003 7:29 AM
Subject: RE: [Karlnet] Answers to Questions about UBICOM devices
> Yes, we do know pricing!
>
> We have been saying for some time that the Ubicom board, with PoE, inside
a
> flat panel antenna will sell for $299 list. This INCLUDES software
> (TurboCell and bridging only - remember, not much processor to work
with)and
> PoE injector with power supply. Expect street price to be somewhat lower.
>
> Kevin
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com
> [mailto:karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com]On Behalf Of Brett Hays
> Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2003 11:21 PM
> To: Karlnet Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [Karlnet] Answers to Questions about UBICOM devices
>
>
> Kevin,
>
> I don't think there's any question, I just want to do that now, with
> Karlnet CPE's. I think sub $200 install is the key in my market, so I
hope
> the new Karlnet option is around the $250-$275 mark with antenna so we
don't
> have to eat too much of the install cost to hit that mark.
>
> Insight cable in my market is $44.95 per month ($10 less if you are
> already a cable customer) and $129 to buy a cable modem or $15 a month
> rental. Assisted install (who knows what that means) is $29 and premium
> install is $99.
>
> I have to be somewhere in that ballpark to be competitive. With a
> nearly $400 CPE cost currently, I can't even compete. I am doing well
with
> business customers, but virtually the only residential I have are the
owners
> of the businesses I have at home.
>
> The installation fees are the killer. I offer DSL service at $70 a
> month (frickin' Verizon gets $40 of that) with a $110 install including
> modem. Nearly every day people opt for that service rather than the same
> speed wireless for $45 a month with a $400 install. I am convinced that
my
> only shot is a lower priced install. I have thought long and hard about
> going the NDIS route, but then we end up supporting Microsoft Internet
> Connection Sharing as most customers have more than one pc. I am hoping
the
> UBICOM option will get me near NDIS pricing (once you include the lmr
cable,
> etc).
>
> Can you tell us anything about final pricing yet?
>
> Brett Hays
> Hometown Online
> www.htonline.net
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kevin Knuth" <kknuth@karlnet.com>
> To: "Karlnet Mailing List" <karlnet@WISPNotes.com>
> Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2003 9:13 PM
> Subject: RE: [Karlnet] Answers to Questions about UBICOM devices
>
>
> > These are VERY VALID points.
> >
> > I agree it is VERY difficult to compete with cable and DSL in the
> > residential market. In my previous WISP background, we served
businesses
> > only.
> >
> > However- I think our industry as a whole will grow when someone can
> > successfully market sub $300 (and then sub $200) CPE devices.
> >
> > Kevin
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com
> > [mailto:karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com]On Behalf Of Caleb Carroll
> > Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2003 7:47 PM
> > To: Brett Hays; Karlnet Mailing List
> > Subject: Re: [Karlnet] Answers to Questions about UBICOM devices
> >
> >
> > It would be nice if CPE prices were lower.
> >
> > My $.02 = Read a Book... namely "Mastering Guerrilla Marketing" by Jay
> > Levinson.
> >
> > One of the insights offered is "Find your Niche Market" In your
> situation,
> > this might equate to Don't bother trying to compete with Cable ISP's &
> ultra
> > cheap CPE... Go after the rural market where the Cable Company can't go.
> > Benefits to this are that one, the people you are offering service to in
> > rural areas will be genuinely grateful for the service and two, you
won't
> > have to worry about CPE costs - if someone really wants the service,
they
> > will get it regardless of the price.
> >
> > *********** REPLY SEPARATOR ***********
> >
> > On 2003-May-01 at 6:38 PM Brett Hays wrote:
> >
> > >AMEN!!!!!! Cable modems are eating our lunch here, we are priced
> > >competitively on monthly access, but our cpe cost is killing sales!
> > >
> > >
> > >> I am just not sure if I can say this any "nicer" but we really need a
> > >> inexpensive CPE. I am missing out on so many installs because folks
> > >> think $250 is to much for an install. They don't realize that we are
> > >> already eating at least $150 of the cost of their gear. Kevin, I
> really
> > >think
> > >> it is critical for Karlnet to get this cheaper CPE out as soon as
> > >possible.
> > >> >
> > >> > Just my $.02
> > >> >
> > >> > -Bob
> > >
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