Just my two cents on this issue. I've been using COR/ROR before I picked up
on Karlnet stuff. It's always been klunky in some areas with tonsa features
being added regularly and more quirks or idiosyncracies. Try and buy the
same software from Lucent and see if you get off as cheap and their
documentation is even worse but at least their manuals have color and lots
of text.
I've often had questions on setups that Charles and Doug have been more than
happy to answer for me. I've never pressured them with the fact that I
bought the product. And I must say that the pricing that I've been getting
has warranted my not being so pushy.
As for preferred ip address, that does indicate to me preferred route or
0.0.0.0/0 gw preferred ip. If my radio is the Base, then I'm going to
assume this would be assigned to the first interface. If my radio is the
Satellite, then I have to specify the ip address of the radio card that I'm
connecting to as it is my gateway to everything outside of my network. This
is no different than having a computer with two or three network cards in
it. On many OSs the route table is built based on interface configurations.
With Karlnet, there is no specific rc.conf or network control panel where
you assign an ip address, subnet mask and/or default gateway to each
interface. You have to go into the route table and set it up there for each
interface for it to work.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Wauchope" <mark@ekiva.net>
To: <karlnet@WISPNotes.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 5:52 PM
Subject: RE: [Karlnet] RG-1100 END OF LIFE!
> I don't see how understanding layer 2 and 3 has anything to do with
> understanding the routing config interface for Karlnet. For example, how
> does knowing routing/bridging protocols make it easier to understand what
> "preferred ip address" is referring to? Is it clear what interface this
is
> supposed to be? Or that you must specify the _ip_ of the 'remote'
interface
> instead of the network number. Or that you actually have to include a
route
> which specifies the ip of the local interface even though the default
> gateway is specified elsewhere. I don't have any problems configuring
> routing using Karlnet now, but I had to ask Charles a lot of questions in
> the beginning to get these kinds of things answered.
>
> Am I wrong about this?
>
> --
> Mark Wauchope, Director of Engineering, Kivanet Inc
> 776 East Second Avenue Suite 207 Durango, CO 81301
> 970-749-2711 http://www.ekiva.net/ mark@ekiva.net
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: karlnet-admin@WISPNotes.com [mailto:karlnet-admin@WISPNotes.com] On
> Behalf Of Dan Metcalf
> Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 4:39 PM
> To: karlnet@WISPNotes.com
> Subject: RE: [Karlnet] RG-1100 END OF LIFE!
>
>
> Well granted not everything is "clear" with karlnet, if you understand
layer
> 2 and layer 3 protocol configuration on network devices like linux,
solaris,
> cisco, (windows), you can configure "karlnet" with out too much effort
>
>
> Dan Metcalf
> Wireless Broadband Systems
> http://www.wbsysnet.com/
> 877-685-0578
> dan.metcalf@wbsysnet.com
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: karlnet-admin@WISPNotes.com [mailto:karlnet-admin@WISPNotes.com]
> On
> > Behalf Of Mark Wauchope
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 6:16 PM
> > To: karlnet@WISPNotes.com
> > Subject: RE: [Karlnet] RG-1100 END OF LIFE!
> >
> > Once again Charles, this support _has nothing to do with the
> hardware_.
> > It
> > has to do with Karlnet's convoluted and undocumented software. We are
> > paying a lot for the software and that is what entitles us to this
> > support, not the hardware. If Karlnet knew how to write a routing
> > interface
> GUI or
> > give a good command line interface, you would likely not have to spend
> > this much time on support. Blame Karlnet for your support costs.
> >
> > --
> > Mark Wauchope, Director of Engineering, Kivanet Inc
> > 776 East Second Avenue Suite 207 Durango, CO 81301 970-749-2711
> > http://www.ekiva.net/ mark@ekiva.net
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: karlnet-admin@WISPNotes.com [mailto:karlnet-admin@WISPNotes.com]
> On
> > Behalf Of Charles Chia Sheng Wu
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 4:13 PM
> > To: karlnet@WISPNotes.com
> > Subject: RE: [Karlnet] RG-1100 END OF LIFE!
> >
> >
> > >No, in my opinion, which comes from 30 years of being in business,
> not
> > >one supplier on this or any other related list, has a clue of how to
> > >make it
> > big
> > >and control a market.
> >
> > >Let me relate a story which I have experienced:
> >
> > >Several years ago I knew a man who started buying plastic beads and
> > >doll heads in Asia to resell to distributors and retailers in the US.
> >
> > yes...but how much support does a plastic bead and doll head require?
> >
> > did your friend have people calling him everyday, 24x7x365, asking him
> how
> > to put beads on dolls, or how to assemble his doll heads, or why
> doesn't
> > his
> > doll head do this? or that?
> >
> > >The man's philosophy of pricing his product was simple: "make a
> LITTLE
> > >BIT on everything you sell, then SELL THE HELL out of it"
> >
> > yes...but COGS consists of a lot more than just the cost of the
> product
> > and
> > shipping, what about support, R&D, etc...
> >
> > >3 years later, this man was the largest importer in the entire Great
> > >Lakes Area (yes, including Chicago...).
> >
> > good for him
> >
> > >The man wasn't trying to make 25-50-75% over his total cost on an
> item.
> > >He worked on a 4-8% net margin.
> >
> > lemme tell you, I am no where close to 25% gross margins
> >
> > but you're friend didn't have any support costs...
> >
> > Jim, think about it, several months ago, you decided to convert your
> > network from a bridged network to a routed network, do you remember
> > who wrote
> out
> > your ENTIRE CONFIG
> >
> > and what did I charge you??? $0?
> >
> > what would you have paid to hire someone w/ a CCIE
> >
> > -Charles
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