OK...using the Orinoco ROR/COR software could one do both routing and
bridging??
Thanks,
Mel
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dan Metcalf" <dan.metcalf@wbsysnet.com>
To: <karlnet@WISPNotes.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 7:25 PM
Subject: RE: [Karlnet] RG-1100 END OF LIFE!
> Layer 3 is routing
>
> It was pretty clear to me once I understood that I created each network
> and specifieds its interface.
>
> It was similar to creating "secondary" networks on cisco routers
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > I don't see how understanding layer 2 and 3 has anything to do with
> > understanding the routing config interface for Karlnet. For example,
> how
> > does knowing routing/bridging protocols make it easier to understand
> what
> > "preferred ip address" is referring to? Is it clear what interface
> this
> > is
> > supposed to be? Or that you must specify the _ip_ of the 'remote'
> > interface
> > instead of the network number. Or that you actually have to include a
> > route
> > which specifies the ip of the local interface even though the default
> > gateway is specified elsewhere. I don't have any problems configuring
> > routing using Karlnet now, but I had to ask Charles a lot of questions
> in
> > the beginning to get these kinds of things answered.
> >
> > Am I wrong about this?
> >
> > --
> > Mark Wauchope, Director of Engineering, Kivanet Inc
> > 776 East Second Avenue Suite 207 Durango, CO 81301
> > 970-749-2711 http://www.ekiva.net/ mark@ekiva.net
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: karlnet-admin@WISPNotes.com [mailto:karlnet-admin@WISPNotes.com]
> On
> > Behalf Of Dan Metcalf
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 4:39 PM
> > To: karlnet@WISPNotes.com
> > Subject: RE: [Karlnet] RG-1100 END OF LIFE!
> >
> >
> > Well granted not everything is "clear" with karlnet, if you understand
> > layer
> > 2 and layer 3 protocol configuration on network devices like linux,
> > solaris,
> > cisco, (windows), you can configure "karlnet" with out too much effort
> >
> >
> > Dan Metcalf
> > Wireless Broadband Systems
> > http://www.wbsysnet.com/
> > 877-685-0578
> > dan.metcalf@wbsysnet.com
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: karlnet-admin@WISPNotes.com
> [mailto:karlnet-admin@WISPNotes.com]
> > On
> > > Behalf Of Mark Wauchope
> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 6:16 PM
> > > To: karlnet@WISPNotes.com
> > > Subject: RE: [Karlnet] RG-1100 END OF LIFE!
> > >
> > > Once again Charles, this support _has nothing to do with the
> > hardware_.
> > > It
> > > has to do with Karlnet's convoluted and undocumented software. We
> are
> > > paying a lot for the software and that is what entitles us to this
> > > support, not the hardware. If Karlnet knew how to write a routing
> > > interface
> > GUI or
> > > give a good command line interface, you would likely not have to
> spend
> > > this much time on support. Blame Karlnet for your support costs.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Mark Wauchope, Director of Engineering, Kivanet Inc
> > > 776 East Second Avenue Suite 207 Durango, CO 81301 970-749-2711
> > > http://www.ekiva.net/ mark@ekiva.net
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: karlnet-admin@WISPNotes.com
> [mailto:karlnet-admin@WISPNotes.com]
> > On
> > > Behalf Of Charles Chia Sheng Wu
> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 4:13 PM
> > > To: karlnet@WISPNotes.com
> > > Subject: RE: [Karlnet] RG-1100 END OF LIFE!
> > >
> > >
> > > >No, in my opinion, which comes from 30 years of being in business,
> > not
> > > >one supplier on this or any other related list, has a clue of how
> to
> > > >make it
> > > big
> > > >and control a market.
> > >
> > > >Let me relate a story which I have experienced:
> > >
> > > >Several years ago I knew a man who started buying plastic beads and
> > > >doll heads in Asia to resell to distributors and retailers in the
> US.
> > >
> > > yes...but how much support does a plastic bead and doll head
> require?
> > >
> > > did your friend have people calling him everyday, 24x7x365, asking
> him
> > how
> > > to put beads on dolls, or how to assemble his doll heads, or why
> > doesn't
> > > his
> > > doll head do this? or that?
> > >
> > > >The man's philosophy of pricing his product was simple: "make a
> > LITTLE
> > > >BIT on everything you sell, then SELL THE HELL out of it"
> > >
> > > yes...but COGS consists of a lot more than just the cost of the
> > product
> > > and
> > > shipping, what about support, R&D, etc...
> > >
> > > >3 years later, this man was the largest importer in the entire
> Great
> > > >Lakes Area (yes, including Chicago...).
> > >
> > > good for him
> > >
> > > >The man wasn't trying to make 25-50-75% over his total cost on an
> > item.
> > > >He worked on a 4-8% net margin.
> > >
> > > lemme tell you, I am no where close to 25% gross margins
> > >
> > > but you're friend didn't have any support costs...
> > >
> > > Jim, think about it, several months ago, you decided to convert your
> > > network from a bridged network to a routed network, do you remember
> > > who wrote
> > out
> > > your ENTIRE CONFIG
> > >
> > > and what did I charge you??? $0?
> > >
> > > what would you have paid to hire someone w/ a CCIE
> > >
> > > -Charles
> > >
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