I don't see how understanding layer 2 and 3 has anything to do with
understanding the routing config interface for Karlnet. For example, how
does knowing routing/bridging protocols make it easier to understand what
"preferred ip address" is referring to? Is it clear what interface this is
supposed to be? Or that you must specify the _ip_ of the 'remote' interface
instead of the network number. Or that you actually have to include a route
which specifies the ip of the local interface even though the default
gateway is specified elsewhere. I don't have any problems configuring
routing using Karlnet now, but I had to ask Charles a lot of questions in
the beginning to get these kinds of things answered.
Am I wrong about this?
--
Mark Wauchope, Director of Engineering, Kivanet Inc
776 East Second Avenue Suite 207 Durango, CO 81301
970-749-2711 http://www.ekiva.net/ mark@ekiva.net
-----Original Message-----
From: karlnet-admin@WISPNotes.com [mailto:karlnet-admin@WISPNotes.com] On
Behalf Of Dan Metcalf
Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 4:39 PM
To: karlnet@WISPNotes.com
Subject: RE: [Karlnet] RG-1100 END OF LIFE!
Well granted not everything is "clear" with karlnet, if you understand layer
2 and layer 3 protocol configuration on network devices like linux, solaris,
cisco, (windows), you can configure "karlnet" with out too much effort
Dan Metcalf
Wireless Broadband Systems
http://www.wbsysnet.com/
877-685-0578
dan.metcalf@wbsysnet.com
> -----Original Message-----
> From: karlnet-admin@WISPNotes.com [mailto:karlnet-admin@WISPNotes.com]
On
> Behalf Of Mark Wauchope
> Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 6:16 PM
> To: karlnet@WISPNotes.com
> Subject: RE: [Karlnet] RG-1100 END OF LIFE!
>
> Once again Charles, this support _has nothing to do with the
hardware_.
> It
> has to do with Karlnet's convoluted and undocumented software. We are
> paying a lot for the software and that is what entitles us to this
> support, not the hardware. If Karlnet knew how to write a routing
> interface
GUI or
> give a good command line interface, you would likely not have to spend
> this much time on support. Blame Karlnet for your support costs.
>
> --
> Mark Wauchope, Director of Engineering, Kivanet Inc
> 776 East Second Avenue Suite 207 Durango, CO 81301 970-749-2711
> http://www.ekiva.net/ mark@ekiva.net
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: karlnet-admin@WISPNotes.com [mailto:karlnet-admin@WISPNotes.com]
On
> Behalf Of Charles Chia Sheng Wu
> Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 4:13 PM
> To: karlnet@WISPNotes.com
> Subject: RE: [Karlnet] RG-1100 END OF LIFE!
>
>
> >No, in my opinion, which comes from 30 years of being in business,
not
> >one supplier on this or any other related list, has a clue of how to
> >make it
> big
> >and control a market.
>
> >Let me relate a story which I have experienced:
>
> >Several years ago I knew a man who started buying plastic beads and
> >doll heads in Asia to resell to distributors and retailers in the US.
>
> yes...but how much support does a plastic bead and doll head require?
>
> did your friend have people calling him everyday, 24x7x365, asking him
how
> to put beads on dolls, or how to assemble his doll heads, or why
doesn't
> his
> doll head do this? or that?
>
> >The man's philosophy of pricing his product was simple: "make a
LITTLE
> >BIT on everything you sell, then SELL THE HELL out of it"
>
> yes...but COGS consists of a lot more than just the cost of the
product
> and
> shipping, what about support, R&D, etc...
>
> >3 years later, this man was the largest importer in the entire Great
> >Lakes Area (yes, including Chicago...).
>
> good for him
>
> >The man wasn't trying to make 25-50-75% over his total cost on an
item.
> >He worked on a 4-8% net margin.
>
> lemme tell you, I am no where close to 25% gross margins
>
> but you're friend didn't have any support costs...
>
> Jim, think about it, several months ago, you decided to convert your
> network from a bridged network to a routed network, do you remember
> who wrote
out
> your ENTIRE CONFIG
>
> and what did I charge you??? $0?
>
> what would you have paid to hire someone w/ a CCIE
>
> -Charles
>
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