Removing a QSO (deleting it from the log) is very different than tagging it
with X-QSO.
QSOs should never be removed from a log. They can be tagged with X-QSO and let
log checking deal with it. Log checking has a lot more data that any
participant.
Since the K3EH call sign in the first QSO was not corrected, it should be
logged as such. If you doubt the call and want to avoid a busted call penalty,
then tag it with X-QSO, but do not remove it. Don't over think it and don't
worry about the 9-call station getting undeserved QSO credit (assuming he
didn't correct his call as sent by you). Stuff happens. Log checking is
seldom perfect. There are undeserved credits and underserved reductions that
net out across the log. That's life. Log checking does a good job, but not
perfect. The OOF (Order of Finish ) is seldom changed by these aberrations.
It's the participant's responsibility to submit a log that accurately reflects
what transpired from the participant's perspective. The participant's
perspective should not include consultation with databases like qrz.com. Only
information obtained over the air during the contest period should be used. It
is log checking's responsibility to sort out the information submitted in the
logs.
73,
Ed W0YK
> -----Original Message-----
> From: CQ-Contest <cq-contest-bounces+ed=w0yk.com@contesting.com> On
> Behalf Of David Hoaglin
> Sent: Saturday, 13 December, 2025 05:50
> To: Art Boyars <artboyars@gmail.com>
> Cc: CQ-Contest Reflector <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Ethical question -- NIL?
>
> Art,
>
> You had enough information, at the time of the QSOs, to remove the QSO
> that you logged with K3EH. I see no ethical problem with turning it into an X-
> QSO.
>
> You tried to ignore the persistent caller with a 9 in the callsign, but his
> QRM
> caused you to bust the callsign of K3ES and log it as K3EH. When K3ES called
> in and you completed that QSO, it was clear that the callsign in the previous
> QSO was not K3EH (no 9 in that callsign, never mind the IL!).
>
> The impact may be minor, but you should not suffer a NIL for your effort to
> complete a QSO with K3ES. I would be grateful to K3ES for sticking around
> and making it into your log with the correct callsign. The "persistent
> 9-lander"
> was not persistent enough to make sure that you had their callsign. That
> station is the only one who deserves a penalty, in this case NIL.
>
> 73, Dave K1HT
>
> On Fri, Dec 12, 2025 at 12:34 PM Art Boyars <artboyars@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > ARRL 160M 'Test. I call CQ and get multiple callers (Saturday night
> > fresh meat). I dig out "K3", and I send "K3". A K3 and some 9-land call
> answer.
> >
> > I dig out "K3E", and I send "K3E?". A K3 and a 9-lander answer.
> >
> > I dig out "K3EH" (I think; close enough -- if I'm wrong, he can fix
> > it), and I send him a report.
> >
> > The calling station sends me "5NN IL" and does not correct the K3EH
> > call sign.
> > Illinois? No problem; lots of people in non-natural QTHs these days.
> > I log it, and do a quick "ready for the next caller", hoping the
> > 9-land caller is still there.
> >
> > Instead, K3ES calls in. "5NN WPA".
> >
> > Hmmm. So, who gave me 5NN IL??
> > QRZ.com shows K3EH in Florida. K3EH has no scores posted on
> > 3830scores.com.
> >
> > I think it was that over-persistent 9-land call. If I leave it in my
> > log, I'll get dinged for a busted callsign. So I change it to X-QSO.
> >
> > But wait a minute. I'll lose the QSO -- and it's his fault -- but the
> > 9-lander call might still get credit for it, which I believe he does
> > not deserve. (Some say the log checking software might not credit
> > him.)
> >
> > I still have time to delete the QSO from my log and to resubmit.
> >
> > What do you think I should do? I do not promise to accept your advice.
> >
> > 73, Art K3KU
> >
> >
> >
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