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Re: [CQ-Contest] Mode-X

To: Bruce Horn <bhorn@hornucopia.com>, cq-contest <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Mode-X
From: Hans Brakob <kzerohb@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2022 17:05:28 +0000
List-post: <mailto:cq-contest@contesting.com>
People are mixing the mode (continuous wave) with the encoding method (Morse 
code).



73, de Hans, KØHB
“Just a Boy and his Radio”™
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From: CQ-Contest <cq-contest-bounces+kzerohb=gmail.com@contesting.com> on 
behalf of Bruce Horn <bhorn@hornucopia.com>
Sent: Monday, February 21, 2022 9:11:56 AM
To: cq-contest <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Mode-X

The point is that CW is not defined by what the operator hears from the speaker 
or headphone. It's defined by the RF emission type. In the case of CW it's a 
single transmitted RF frequency that is turned on and off in a defined manner 
in order to encode information. "Back in the day" passive components were used 
to shape the RF envelope to reduce keying bandwidth (key clicks), while modern 
radios use digital signal processing techniques to do so. However, the bottom 
line is that it's a continuous carrier that's turned on and off.

For the new suggested mode, the question is would contest sponsors consider it 
to be CW?

73 de Bruce, WA7BNM   (bhorn@hornucopia.com)

----- Original Message -----
From: "David Gilbert" <ab7echo@gmail.com>
To: "cq-contest" <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2022 10:49:13 PM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Mode-X

I never suggested any of those things, and they are all totally
superfluous to my proposal.  It is an old and completely bogus debating
technique to extrapolate somebody's position to the ridiculous, like you
are doing now.

By the way what you are describing is basically FT8 carried to an
extreme ... and what I have been proposing is the result of me trying to
arrive at something that is different enough from FT8 that it would be a
desirable contesting mode.

Dave   AB7E


On 2/20/2022 8:56 PM, Igor Sokolov wrote:
> It sounds like a universal digital mode that can be translated into
> CW, RTTY, PHONE or even Video at the RX end. It can also carry machine
> commands to initiate remote printer and print instant QSL cards,
> automatically generate and send spot to all the spotting networks.
> Spots themselves can carry a code that will tune radios with proper
> software to the required frequency and initiate exchange with the
> originator. GREAT! And what do we need radio for? With the recent
> allowance of self spotting and extensive use of Internet in contests
> by ARRL, all contesting should slide into internet and abandon ancient
> radio waves media.   Sounds like there is no place in this scenario
> for human being. END OF HOBBY!
>
> 73, Igor UA9CDC

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