| Gee Paul, and to think I almost missed this because, for the last 5 
years, I've had my e-mail software send your e-mails straight to the 
trash-bin.  As I recall, that was in reaction to other specific, 
personally-nasty comments in the past. 
To be clear, I was responding om CQ-Contest to several people who 
expressed specific interest in remote operating, while nobody mentioned 
call history files in responding my inquiry.  If a similar number had 
suggested I take on call history files, he probably would have been 
gratified if I responded to them as well.  The growing number of people 
using remotely- controlled stations, to judge from  3830scores.com, 
suggests that more and more of us, living in circumstances that don't 
permit decent antennas, are resorting to remote control to keep 
scratching the contesting itch.  As for needing the Internet to 
implement remote operation, all I can say is "horrors!" 
I don't understand what particular bone Paul has to pick with me, but he 
doesn't seem to be able to do so without being snarky, so back to the 
trash-bin. 
73, Pete N4ZR
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On 1/16/2022 12:37 PM, Paul O'Kane wrote:
 
On 16/01/2022 15:38, Pete Smith N4ZR wrote:
 From the number of comments I've received, both on the reflector and 
off, it appears that a prime subject these days is remote operation.
 
It appears that N4ZR has little or no interest in using software to 
modernize contest exchanges, even though he specifically asked for 
comments on call history files.  The fact that remote operation is a 
hot topic is no reason to disregard other aspects of contesting 
software.  As confirmation of his intent, N4ZR has unilaterally 
changed the subject of this thread from "Software Column in NCJ - Need 
Ideas"  to  "Remote operating software - for NCJ column" 
How relevant is remote contesting to NCJ?  After all, the software 
issues relate to station control and signal relay over wide-area 
networks, to internet dependence, and to internet latency - in short, 
to wired communications.  Internet-based apps can and do complement 
ham-band contesting, but when contest QSOs cannot exist without being 
hosted on the internet it marks them out as something completely 
different from person-to-person, RF-all-the-way QSOs. 
There has been some negative comment on this thread about remote 
stations for hire (subscriber remote operation).   It seems to me that 
once remote contesting is accepted on exactly the same terms as 
hands-on contesting, it's hypocritical to complain about remote 
stations for hire.  No one complains about hands-on stations for hire 
in exotic DX locations. 
Remote contesting is here to stay, but to regard it as no different 
from hands-on contesting is both misguided and foolish. Let remote 
contesters compete only with one another. 
73,
Paul EI5DI
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