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Re: [CQ-Contest] Don't forget to spot in CQWW SSB

To: "pokane@ei5di.com" <pokane@ei5di.com>, "cq-contest@contesting.com" <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Don't forget to spot in CQWW SSB
From: AB1J via CQ-Contest <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Reply-to: ktfrog007@aol.com
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2021 14:20:38 +0000 (UTC)
List-post: <mailto:cq-contest@contesting.com>
Well, I'm opposed to anyone who gets spotted considering themselves to be 
Unassisted.  Assistance works both ways.  It generates a QSO for the P&C 
station and for the running station. 

This is why I was happy to see the Unassisted category eliminated from the 
CQ-WPX contests.  It's a phony category.  Imagine turning off the clusters and 
RBN during a major contest and seeing the scores plummet.

Virtually no one is Unassisted anymore, except an entirely S&P station who's 
Unassisted.

How about that?  This is a position universally despised in the contest 
community.

You\'ll find me out back hunkered down in my bunker.  I've got enough food for 
three months. CU later.

73,
Ken, AB1J

-----Original Message-----
From: Paul O'Kane <pokane@ei5di.com>
To: cq-contest@contesting.com
Sent: Fri, Oct 29, 2021 7:47 am
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Don't forget to spot in CQWW SSB

Then, perhaps N4ZR will let us know the "real" reason for K1AR's warning 
about the consequences of unintended cluster access.

With regard to technological innovation, I an opposed to "assisted" 
being considered a single-op category when it's clearly multi-op.

73,
Paul EI5DI




On 29/10/2021 02:59, Pete Smith N4ZR wrote:
> I'd expect nothing less from you, Paul, given your long opposition to 
> all technological innovation - fact is, most cluster software has 
> set/nodx or the equivalent, to make sure no spots come your way when 
> you don't want them .
>
> 73, Pete N4ZR
> Check out the new Reverse Beacon Network
> web server at<http://beta.reversebeacon.net>.
> For spots, please use your favorite
> "retail" DX cluster.
>
> On 10/28/2021 5:38 PM, Paul O'Kane wrote:
>> It's simple - "unassisted" ops risk being DQed for accidental or 
>> unintended cluster access/use.
>>
>> 73,
>> Paul EI5DI
>>
>>
>>
>> On 28/10/2021 22:10, Pete Smith N4ZR wrote:
>>> I don't understand, John.  What are you worried about?
>>>
>>> 73, Pete N4ZR
>>> Check out the new Reverse Beacon Network
>>> web server at<http://beta.reversebeacon.net>.
>>> For spots, please use your favorite
>>> "retail" DX cluster.
>>>
>>> On 10/28/2021 4:54 PM, John Dorr wrote:
>>>> The CQWW rules allow for outbound spotting as an unassisted entry. 
>>>> However, my advice is that if you are unassisted to avoid any use 
>>>> of the cluster. You’re only inviting the possibility of unintended 
>>>> access (or worse).
>>>>
>>>> 73, John, K1AR
>>
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