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Re: [CQ-Contest] 40M FT4 Frequency

To: "'Ron Notarius W3WN'" <wn3vaw@verizon.net>, <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] 40M FT4 Frequency
From: Brennan Price via CQ-Contest <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Reply-to: brennanprice@verizon.net
Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2019 22:15:24 -0400
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No respect is necessarily due, and no blame assigned to ARRL on this particular 
action of others.

That said, ARRL and IARU are uniquely situated to do HF band planning, and this 
work used to be routinely paid due attention before He Who Retired For Tax 
Reasons started fixating on things like Vice Directors, while letting things 
like the Volunteer Monitor program remain six months away from completion for 
21 months.

Years of misplaced priorities eventually show.

73 de Brennan N4QX


From: Ron Notarius W3WN <wn3vaw@verizon.net> 
Sent: Tuesday, August 6, 2019 7:34
To: brennanprice@verizon.net; cq-contest@contesting.com
Subject: Re: Re: [CQ-Contest] 40M FT4 Frequency

With all due respect, why is this being blamed on the ARRL?

If I’m not mistaken, the choice in frequency was made by the developers, not 
the League.

73, ron W3WN




-----Original Message-----
From: Brennan Price via CQ-Contest <mailto:cq-contest@contesting.com>
To: cq-contest <mailto:cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Tue, Aug 6, 2019 07:25 AM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] 40M FT4 Frequency

A few observations, now that I'm sure I have plain text turned on and having
watched today's discussion with interest:

1) Above 7100 is hard because of how the narrower 40 meter band is used in
ITU Regions 1 and 3.
2) This is a hard issue, and may have no easy solution. 
3) It would be good to see ARRL pay more attention to this than to, for
example, whether Connecticut law permits Vice Directors. (Free advice from a
Connecticut lawyer: it does.)
4) From a spectrum management an defense perspective, this a very good
problem to have.

73 de Brennan N4QX

-----Original Message-----
From: CQ-Contest <mailto:cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com> On Behalf Of Jamie 
WW3S
Sent: Monday, August 5, 2019 19:56
To: mailto:donovanf@starpower.net; mailto:cq-contest@contesting.com
Cc: k1jt <mailto:k1jt@arrl.net>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] 40M FT4 Frequency

Not sure what the ARRL directors can do, other than suggest a different freq
(I think above 7.100 would be great). I think the software developers,
users, and contest organizers would be the ones to suggest "the move"

------ Original Message ------
From: mailto:donovanf@starpower.net
To: mailto:cq-contest@contesting.com
Cc: "k1jt" <mailto:k1jt@arrl.net>
Sent: 8/5/2019 10:34:49 AM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] 40M FT4 Frequency

>I fully support K9YC's recommendation that ARRL members contact their 
>directors so that they become aware of the need to quickly act force a 
>change in the unfortunate choice of 7047.5 kHz for routine and rapidly 
>growing FT4 activity.
>
>
>73
>Frank
>W3LPL
>
>----- Original Message -----
>
>From: mailto:donovanf@starpower.net
>To: "PVRC Mailman" <mailto:pvrc@mailman.qth.net>
>Cc: "k1jt" <mailto:k1jt@arrl.net>, "W3TOM" <mailto:w3tom@arrl.org>, 
>mailto:w2ru@arrl.org
>Sent: Monday, August 5, 2019 2:29:13 PM
>Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] 40M FT4 Frequency
>
>
>What are PVRC members opinions and recommendations about the unwise 
>choice of 7047.5 kHz for FT4 activity? While the FT4 development team 
>naively expected FT4 to be used only during contests, inevitably FT4 
>use is rapidly growing for routine QSOs.
>
>
>
>In my opinion the obvious 40 meter FT4 frequency range is in the much 
>more lightly used 7100-7125 kHz segment.
>
>
>Something must be done soon.
>
>
>73
>Frank
>W3LPL
>
>----- Original Message -----
>
>From: "Jim Brown" <mailto:k9yc@audiosystemsgroup.com>
>To: "cq-contest" <mailto:cq-contest@contesting.com>
>Sent: Monday, August 5, 2019 7:57:41 AM
>Subject: [CQ-Contest] 40M FT4 Frequency
>
>7047 has been chosen, and many fans of WSJT modes have observed that 
>it's likely to start a war. That range is widely used by W1AW, state 
>QSO parties, QRP and QRS operation, county hunters, most CW contests, 
>and many others. Sure, the WSJT team think it's only for contests, but 
>if you build it, they will come, and they are coming. I had QRM from 
>FT4 operators during NAQP CW.
>
>I am a huge fan of the work of K1JT and his team (I use FT8 extensively 
>on 160M and 6M), but they ain't perfect, and this is a massive screw-up.
>The default 40M FT4 frequency ought to be somewhere north of 7070 kHz.
>OTOH, I have no issue with the DXpedition mode frequency around 7058. I 
>urge all contest clubs to contact both the WSJT team and their ARRL 
>representatives about this.
>
>73, Jim K9YC
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