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> 1. Re: A Peek at Next Weekend's WRTC2018 (Jack Brindle)
> 2. Re: WRTC Qualifying (Jeff Clarke)
> 3. Re: WRTC Qualifying (Jeff Clarke)
> 4. WRTC which contests qualify (cqtestk4xs@aol.com)
> 5. Re: WRTC Qualifying (cqtestk4xs@aol.com)
> 6. Re: WRTC which contests qualify (Chris Hurlbut)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 08 Jul 2018 09:47:26 -0700
> From: Jack Brindle <jackbrindle@me.com>
> To: David Siddall <hhamwv@gmail.com>
> Cc: cq-contest <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] A Peek at Next Weekend's WRTC2018
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> This needs to be corrected. 30,000,000 is 30 Megawatts, not Gigawatts.
> We really don?t want to look stupid in all these press releases!
>
> 73,
> Jack, W6FB
>
>> On Jul 8, 2018, at 5:20 AM, David Siddall <hhamwv@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> There also will be two special broadcasts of WRTC news and information on
>> shortwave, as I posted yesterday. These broadcasts will use 30 GIGAWATTS
>> (30,000,000 watts) ERP (300 KW > 20dB antenna)! Sat. July 14 @ 11-1200 UTC
>> and Sun. July 15 @ 0900 UTC, both on 6.070 MHz and 13.860 MHz (best for
>> North America).
>
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2018 17:09:00 -0400
> From: Jeff Clarke <ku8e@ku8e.com>
> To: cq-contest@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] WRTC Qualifying
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> Oh C'Mon!!? An east coast station complaining about their propagation ??
> You got to be kidding right? You really don't realize how well you have
> it compared to the rest of the country. Only a handful of stations
> outside the East Coast ever make the top ten box in any category of a DX
> contest. Come down and operate where I live and you will appreciate what
> you have. I could probably put up a bunch of big towers and beams and
> K1AR would still beat me with his wires !! :)
>
> Jeff KU8E
>
>
>> On 7/8/2018 11:52 AM, rjairam@gmail.com wrote:
>> Hi Robert,
>>
>> In the USA I have operated from Florida, Arkansas and Texas and remotely
>> from California.
>>
>> The difference between NJ and Maine, NH or Vermont can be quite
>> significant.
>>
>> Yes up here it is better than the west coast but in contesting to work
>> Europe the more North Easterly you are, the better because the band stays
>> open longer.
>>
>> 73
>> Ria, N2RJ
>>
>>> On Sun, Jul 8, 2018 at 9:09 AM robert f beaudoin <wa1fcn@charter.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> GM Ria
>>>
>>> Maybe you have never operated from outside the NorthEast
>>> USA, but I find it
>>>
>>> hard to sympathize with your comment about you as a W2 station
>>> having a geographic
>>>
>>> disadvantage against W1 land. Your QTH in N. J. what is that
>>> 100 miles from W1 land ?
>>>
>>> I guess all things are relative but I sure wish I had your
>>> disadvantage.
>>>
>>> 73 and GM from from Alabama WA1FCN
>>>
>>>
>>>> On 7/7/2018 8:49 PM, rjairam@gmail.com wrote:
>>>> I?m looking at my case. Under the current criteria I have not a shot in
>>>> hell. Mostly because I?m competing with W1 who has an obvious geographic
>>>> advantage. When it was aligned with US Call districts it was a bit
>>> easier,
>>>> but I didn?t really try to qualify then.
>>>>
>>>> I guess the dream will have to wait, or I could spend money and build a
>>>> station in the Caribbean and operate, remotely even.
>>>>
>>>> I don?t think it will be possible to be completely fair but qualification
>>>> rules should prioritize skill first if this is going to be a competition
>>> of
>>>> who is the best operator. There are of course some damned good operators
>>> in
>>>> there but I think some who may not have access to a super duper station
>>> get
>>>> left out.
>>>>
>>>> 73
>>>> Ria
>>>> N2RJ
>>>>> On Sat, Jul 7, 2018 at 9:21 PM Jeff Clarke <ku8e@ku8e.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> 6. Qualification Score Calculation
>>>>>
>>>>> The qualification score is the sum of up to 12 Event Scores. The maximum
>>>>> possible qualification score is 12.000 for DL, 11.900 for the rest of
>>>>> the world.
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. A maximum of 4 Event Scores may be from multi-ops (MS/M2/MM).
>>>>> 2. A maximum of 4 Event Scores can be from outside an applicant?s home
>>>>> Selection Area (i.e., DXpeditions).
>>>>> 3. A maximum of 2 operators may submit scores for a single contest
>>> from
>>>>> a MS, 3 from a M2, and 4 from a MM.
>>>>> 4. If an operator?s callsign appears with more than one entry in a
>>>>> single qualifying event (e.g., from operating at more than one
>>>>> station), they may not use any scores from that contest.
>>>>> 5. In the unlikely case of a tie score for the final qualifying spot
>>> in
>>>>> a Selection Area, the applicants will be asked for additional
>>> scores
>>>>> beyond those submitted on the application until the tie is broken.
>>>>>
>>>>> As long as you operate a station in your own qualification area as a SO
>>>>> it counts. That would ether be from home OR as a guest operator. That's
>>>>> how you could qualify without having a station at home.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jeff
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 7/7/2018 05:38 PM, Timothy Coker via CQ-Contest wrote:
>>>>>> What if you had no home station, let alone a tribander with wires,
>>> could
>>>>> you qualify then?
>>>>>> Tim / N6WIN
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Saturday, July 7, 2018, 14:16, Igor Sokolov <ua9cdc@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Yes, this was the first time one could qualify using low power.
>>>>>> Notwithstanding you have to have big antenna farm because even in Low
>>>>>> power category there were a lot of competitors. And yes, some of those
>>>>>> who have big stations did bother with doing low power. Tribander and
>>>>>> wires from the city lot is not enough to qualify for WRTC regardless of
>>>>>> power.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 73, Igor UA9CDC
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 07.07.2018 22:03, Jeff Clarke ?????:
>>>>>>> It's possible to qualify by doing low power. Your score would be
>>>>>>> compared to others that are doing low power and not the high power
>>>>>>> scores. If you do that you won't have to compete again the "big gun"
>>>>>>> stations in your region. Plus you aren't getting any reduction in
>>>>>>> score ( getting the same number of points same as HP SO guys) like
>>>>>>> someone who did Multi-Ops. I really doubt someone who has a big
>>>>>>> station would want to bother with doing low power.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If I'm not mistaken Julio, AD4Z, who is one of the team leaders in our
>>>>>>> region (NA-002) did this and qualified.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jeff KU8E
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 7/6/2018 11:11 PM, Timothy Coker via CQ-Contest wrote:
>>>>>>>> I think what?s most interesting is the guys I know who typically win
>>>>>>>> don?t spend a lot of time complaining... they spend a lot of time
>>>>>>>> working at what makes them winners.
>>>>>>>> I can also think of some people who won/win that don?t have deep
>>>>>>>> pockets at all.
>>>>>>>> Some of the best operators don?t actually have big stations. Not
>>>>>>>> taking away from the big station owners at all, as some of them are
>>>>>>>> great operators themselves. However, many are willing to let the
>>>>>>>> latest up and coming great operators take their station seats to show
>>>>>>>> what can be done.
>>>>>>>> It makes sense to me because it takes a lot of time and effort to
>>>>>>>> either build or work to pay for others to build something expensive.
>>>>>>>> That same time is thus not spent on honing operating skills.
>>>>>>>> Very similar to how many athletes aren?t rich until after (and not
>>>>>>>> for all) they have worked so very hard to win and are given
>>> noteriety.
>>>>>>>> If a guy wants to remote or travel into my area and he beats me, so
>>>>>>>> be it... time for me to get better. Or maybe I don?t want to put in
>>>>>>>> the same operating skills effort that he did and thus I?ll just hope
>>>>>>>> he doesn?t return.
>>>>>>>> Competition is great... it shows how hard we are willing to work, or
>>>>>>>> not.
>>>>>>>> Tim / N6WIN.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Friday, July 6, 2018, 14:45, Jim via CQ-Contest
>>>>>>>> <cq-contest@contesting.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have a somewhat different perspective, being an Ohio snowbird who
>>>>>>>> spends half the year in Florida. As a practical matter I could not
>>>>>>>> qualify without a lot of travel or remote operating from W8. And I?m
>>>>>>>> not that stupid to head north from Florida in February :-)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I had my shot at WRTC in 2014 (as N1U with partner K9NW), but I
>>>>>>>> didn?t compete to qualify for 2018, and don?t see me trying to
>>>>>>>> qualify for future WRTCs, so don?t take these comments as being self
>>>>>>>> serving.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If a W6 resident wants to operate from W1, let him do so, comparing
>>>>>>>> his scores with other W1 entrants. And conversely, if a guy living in
>>>>>>>> W1 is crazy enough to want to operate CQWW from W6, thinking the
>>>>>>>> qualifying competition there might be less, why stop him? Again,
>>>>>>>> compare his W6 score with other W6 scores, and let the WRTC
>>>>>>>> qualifying points go into his home W1 account.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So long as a person is a legitimate resident of his qualifying area,
>>>>>>>> why stop him from operating from anywhere in the world, whether in
>>>>>>>> person or remotely? I don?t have a problem to allow someone like
>>>>>>>> LZ4AX to qualify from W3, but I would not let people become
>>>>>>>> ?Africans? solely by virtue of a bunch of operating from zone 33.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 73 - Jim K8MR
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> p.s. Keep in mind the motto of the Florida Contest Group: Sooner or
>>>>>>>> later, you?ll be one of us!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Jul 6, 2018, at 4:16 PM, WW3S <ww3s@zoominternet.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> A west coast ham, operating a remote station with antennas in Maine,
>>>>>>>>> should be competing as if he/she were physically in Maine.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 5, 2018, at 11:56 PM, David Siddall <hhamwv@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> A W6 ham resident in California that operates a station on the east
>>>>>>>>>> coast,
>>>>>>>>>> whether by physical or remote means, could not qualify to be a team
>>>>>>>>>> leader
>>>>>>>>>> for the WRTC2018. Rule 7.5 - 7.7, subject to Rule 6.2.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 73, Dave K3ZJ
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 5, 2018 at 5:52 PM, Carol Richards <n2mm@comcast.net>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I agree....where you operate _from_ should determine what region
>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>> compete in. A W6 in California operating a remote station on the
>>>>>>>>>>> East coast
>>>>>>>>>>> should not be grouped with other East coast stations to qualify
>>>>>>>>>>> for WRTC.
>>>>>>>>>>> This remote category is getting out of hand.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Carol
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> Message: 3
> Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2018 17:30:08 -0400
> From: Jeff Clarke <ku8e@ku8e.com>
> To: cq-contest@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] WRTC Qualifying
> Message-ID: <28be5ad4-9ab0-81b1-230c-ab0179f5513a@ku8e.com>
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>
> When K4BAI and I were competitors in Brazil in 2006 our qualifying
> region included all of W1-W4 with only two teams from that region. Talk
> about a tough region to have to qualify in! I can tell you that
> propagation in Georgia is nothing close to what it is in New England so
> the odds of us making it was very slim even if you had a super station.
>
> In our case people ahead of us in the standings had to drop out for
> various reasons and others were teammates with someone else. They made
> it down to #7? in the East Region where K4BAI was and John picked me as
> his teammate.? I guess the moral of this story is just to try your best
> to have a good qualifying score and you might get lucky like we did.
>
> Jeff KU8E
>
>
>
>> On 7/8/2018 09:17 AM, David Siddall wrote:
>> For the record, in the WRTC2018 selection area that includes New England,
>> only one of the three winners operated in New England.
>>
>> One operated from the middle of Pennsylvania (225 miles WEST of New York
>> City). The other operated from the suburbs of Washington, DC.
>>
>> Furthermore, the Pennsylvania op lived in Boston and traveled TO
>> mid-Pennsylvania to operate in contests.
>>
>> Probably a good thing that these ops didn't realize that they had "no
>> chance in hell" to win.
>>
>> (Complete WRTC2018 qualification final rankings are at:
>> http://wrtc2018.de/index.php/en/competition/standings-2.
>>
>> 73, Dave K3ZJ
>>
>>
>>> On Sat, Jul 7, 2018 at 9:49 PM, rjairam@gmail.com <rjairam@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I?m looking at my case. Under the current criteria I have not a shot in
>>> hell. Mostly because I?m competing with W1 who has an obvious geographic
>>> advantage. When it was aligned with US Call districts it was a bit easier,
>>> but I didn?t really try to qualify then.
>>>
>> < >
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> Message: 4
> Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2018 19:00:47 -0400
> From: cqtestk4xs@aol.com
> To: cq-contest@contesting.com
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC which contests qualify
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>
> Geographical advantage for ALL of the east coast? Uh, no. I ran a 4 el wire
> quad at a height of 120-130 ft on 80 meters in central FL and regularly got
> beat out to EU by W1/W2 stations running inverted vees at 80 or 90 ft. There
> is a difference of around 1300-1400 miles from northern ME to southern FL and
> no station in FL can compete with a NE station in DX contests. Now for
> domestic contests that's a different story. That's why putting SS and maybe
> NAQP in the mix for qualifying is a fair way to go.
>
>
> My choice for qualifying events for US:
>
>
> ARRL DX
> CQWW
> WPX
> SS
> NAQP
>
>
> It is possible to make a top three or four with a modest station in NAQP and
> SS if you are a good op. K6LL and others have done it.
>
>
> By the way, if you have a modest station or no station, many good stations
> are available if you ask. The worst that will happen is the owner will say
> no. Also, consider using a club station. W4LT has used the Tampa Radio Club
> station and got first place US in the low power assisted last year.
>
>
> Yeah, it's easier if you have a big station at your QTH, but you can still
> qualify if you don't. Ask N2NL.
>
>
> Bill KH7XS/K4XS
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeff Clarke <ku8e@ku8e.com>
> To: cq-contest <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> Sent: Sun, Jul 8, 2018 9:45 pm
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] WRTC Qualifying
>
>
> Oh C'Mon!! An east coast station complaining about their propagation ? You
> got to be kidding right? You really don't realize how well you have it
> compared to the rest of the country. Only a handful of stations outside the
> East Coast ever make the top ten box in any category of a DX contest. Come
> down and operate where I live and you will appreciate what you have. I could
> probably put up a bunch of big towers and beams and K1AR would still beat me
> with his wires !! :) Jeff KU8E On 7/8/2018 11:52 AM, rjairam@gmail.com wrote:
> > Hi Robert, > > In the USA I have operated from Florida, Arkansas and Texas
> and remotely > from California. > > The difference between NJ and Maine, NH
> or Vermont can be quite > significant. > > Yes up here it is better than the
> west coast but in contesting to work > Europe the more North Easterly you
> are, the better because the band stays > open longer. > > 73 > Ria, N2RJ > >
> On Sun, Jul 8, 2018 at 9:09 AM robert f beaudoin <wa1fcn@charter.net> wrote:
>
>>> GM Ria >> >> Maybe you have never operated from outside the
>>> NorthEast >> USA, but I find it >> >> hard to sympathize with your comment
>>> about you as a W2 station >> having a geographic >> >> disadvantage against
>>> W1 land. Your QTH in N. J. what is that >> 100 miles from W1 land ? >> >> I
>>> guess all things are relative but I sure wish I had your >> disadvantage.
>>> >> >> 73 and GM from from Alabama WA1FCN >> >> >> On 7/7/2018 8:49 PM,
>>> rjairam@gmail.com wrote: >>> I?m looking at my case. Under the current
>>> criteria I have not a shot in >>> hell. Mostly because I?m competing with
>>> W1 who has an obvious geographic >>> advantage. When it was aligned with US
>>> Call districts it was a bit >> easier, >>> but I didn?t really try to
>>> qualify then. >>> >>> I guess the dream will have to wait, or I could spend
>>> money and build a >>> station in the Caribbean and operate, remotely even.
>>> >>> >>> I don?t think it will be possible to be completely fair but
>>> qualification >>> rules shoul
> d prioritize skill first if this is going to be a competition >> of >>> who
> is the best operator. There are of course some damned good operators >> in
> >>> there but I think some who may not have access to a super duper station
> >> get >>> left out. >>> >>> 73 >>> Ria >>> N2RJ >>> On Sat, Jul 7, 2018 at
> 9:21 PM Jeff Clarke <ku8e@ku8e.com> wrote: >>> >>>> 6. Qualification Score
> Calculation >>>> >>>> The qualification score is the sum of up to 12 Event
> Scores. The maximum >>>> possible qualification score is 12.000 for DL,
> 11.900 for the rest of >is very different, so is the east coast>>> the
> world.>>>>>>>> 1. A maximum of 4 Event Scores may be from multi-ops
> (MS/M2/MM).>>>> 2. A maximum of 4 Event Scores can be from outside an
> applicant?s home>>>> Selection Area (i.e., DXpeditions).>>>> 3. A
> maximum of 2 operators may submit scores for a single contest>> from>>>>
> a MS, 3 from a M2, and 4 from a MM.>>>> 4. If an operator?s callsign
> appears with more than
> one entry in a>>>> single qualifying event (e.g., from operating at
> more than one>>>> station), they may not use any scores from that
> contest.>>>> 5. In the unlikely case of a tie score for the final
> qualifying spot>> in>>>> a Selection Area, the applicants will be asked
> for additional>> scores>>>> beyond those submitted on the application
> until the tie is broken.>>>>>>>> As long as you operate a station in your own
> qualification area as a SO>>>> it counts. That would ether be from home OR as
> a guest operator. That's>>>> how you could qualify without having a station
> at home.>>>>>>>> Jeff>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/7/2018 05:38 PM, Timothy Coker via
> CQ-Contest wrote:>>>>> What if you had no home station, let alone a tribander
> with wires,>> could>>>> you qualify then?>>>>> Tim / N6WIN>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, July 7, 2018,
> 14:16, Igor Sokolov <ua9cdc@gmail.com>>> wrote:>>>>> Yes, this was the first
> time one c
o
> uld qualify using low power.>>>>> Notwithstanding you have to have big
> antenna farm because even in Low>>>>> power category there were a lot of
> competitors. And yes, some of those>>>>> who have big stations did bother
> with doing low power. Tribander and>>>>> wires from the city lot is not
> enough to qualify for WRTC regardless of>>>>> power.>>>>>>>>>> 73, Igor
> UA9CDC>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 07.07.2018 22:03, Jeff Clarke ?????:>>>>>> It's
> possible to qualify by doing low power. Your score would be>>>>>> compared to
> others that are doing low power and not the high power>>>>>> scores. If you
> do that you won't have to compete again the "big gun">>>>>> stations in your
> region. Plus you aren't getting any reduction in>>>>>> score ( getting the
> same number of points same as HP SO guys) like>>>>>> someone who did
> Multi-Ops. I really doubt someone who has a big>>>>>> station would want to
> bother with doing low power.>>>>>>>>>>>> If I'm not mistaken Julio, AD4Z, who
> is one of the team leaders
i
> n our>>>>>> region (NA-002) did this and qualified.>>>>>>>>>>>> Jeff
> KU8E>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/6/2018 11:11 PM, Timothy Coker via CQ-Contest
> wrote:>>>>>>> I think what?s most interesting is the guys I know who
> typically win>>>>>>> don?t spend a lot of time complaining... they spend a
> lot of time>>>>>>> working at what makes them winners.>>>>>>> I can also
> think of some people who won/win that don?t have deep>>>>>>> pockets at
> all.>>>>>>> Some of the best operators don?t actually have big stations.
> Not>>>>>>> taking away from the big station owners at all, as some of them
> are>>>>>>> great operators themselves. However, many are willing to let
> the>>>>>>> latest up and coming great operators take their station seats to
> show>>>>>>> what can be done.>>>>>>> It makes sense to me because it takes a
> lot of time and effort to>>>>>>> either build or work to pay for others to
> build something expensive.>>>>>>> That same time is thus not spent on honing
> operating skills.>>>>>>> Very s
i
> milar to how many athletes aren?t rich until after (and not>>>>>>> for all)
> they have worked so very hard to win and are given>> noteriety.>>>>>>> If a
> guy wants to remote or travel into my area and he beats me, so>>>>>>> be
> it... time for me to get better. Or maybe I don?t want to put in>>>>>>> the
> same operating skills effort that he did and thus I?ll just hope>>>>>>> he
> doesn?t return.>>>>>>> Competition is great... it shows how hard we are
> willing to work, or>>>>>>> not.>>>>>>> Tim / N6WIN.>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from
> Yahoo Mail for iPhone>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Friday, July 6, 2018, 14:45,
> Jim via CQ-Contest>>>>>>> <cq-contest@contesting.com> wrote:>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
> have a somewhat different perspective, being an Ohio snowbird who>>>>>>>
> spends half the year in Florida. As a practical matter I could not>>>>>>>
> qualify without a lot of travel or remote operating from W8. And I?m>>>>>>>
> not that stupid to head north from Florida in February :-)>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
> had my shot a
t
> WRTC in 2014 (as N1U with partner K9NW), but I>>>>>>> didn?t compete to
> qualify for 2018, and don?t see me trying to>>>>>>> qualify for future WRTCs,
> so don?t take these comments as being self>>>>>>> serving.>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If a
> W6 resident wants to operate from W1, let him do so, comparing>>>>>>> his
> scores with other W1 entrants. And conversely, if a guy living in>>>>>>> W1
> is crazy enough to want to operate CQWW from W6, thinking the>>>>>>>
> qualifying competition there might be less, why stop him? Again,>>>>>>>
> compare his W6 score with other W6 scores, and let the WRTC>>>>>>> qualifying
> points go into his home W1 account.>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So long as a person is a
> legitimate resident of his qualifying area,>>>>>>> why stop him from
> operating from anywhere in the world, whether in>>>>>>> person or remotely? I
> don?t have a problem to allow someone like>>>>>>> LZ4AX to qualify from W3,
> but I would not let people become>>>>>>> ?Africans? solely by virtue of a
> bunch of operating
> from zone 33.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 73 - Jim K8MR>>>>>>>>>>>>>> p.s.
> Keep in mind the motto of the Florida Contest Group: Sooner or>>>>>>> later,
> you?ll be one of us!>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 6, 2018, at
> 4:16 PM, WW3S <ww3s@zoominternet.net> wrote:>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A west coast
> ham, operating a remote station with antennas in Maine,>>>>>>>> should be
> competing as if he/she were physically in Maine.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my
> iPad>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 5, 2018, at 11:56 PM, David Siddall
> <hhamwv@gmail.com>>> wrote:>>>>>>>>> A W6 ham resident in California that
> operates a station on the east>>>>>>>>> coast,>>>>>>>>> whether by physical
> or remote means, could not qualify to be a team>>>>>>>>> leader>>>>>>>>> for
> the WRTC2018. Rule 7.5 - 7.7, subject to Rule 6.2.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 73,
> Dave K3ZJ>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 5, 2018 at 5:52 PM, Carol
> Richards <n2mm@comcast.net>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> Hi,>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>
>>>>> I agree....where you operate _from_ should determine what region>>
>>>>> you>>>>>>>>>> compete in. A W6 in California operating a remote station
>>>>> on the>>>>>>>>>> East coast>>>>>>>>>> should not be grouped with other
>>>>> East coast stations to qualify>>>>>>>>>> for WRTC.>>>>>>>>>> This remote
>>>>> category is getting out of hand.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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> Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2018 19:54:31 -0400
> From: cqtestk4xs@aol.com
> To: cq-contest@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] WRTC Qualifying
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> Come on Bob, being in Al or FL is an advantage to work JA and VK, true.
> However, no way can it make up for the multitude of countries and QSOs that
> are available in EU, especially on 160 and 80. I'm only 4000 miles from JA
> out here in KH6, and would gladly exchange the NY EU runs for my much slower
> JA, BY, YB, HS runs from KH6. The quantity is just not there, even with my
> outstanding location.
>
>
> You forgot one other thing too. Being in AL or FL means that we get almost
> one hour less darkness at the end of Oct and Nov to get all those 40, 80 and
> 160 mults and countries. Even the ARRL DX contests have that issue. The
> only time AL, FL have equal darkness is for WPX SSB. And no, the extra hour
> of light is not a big deal for AL/FL on 10, 15 or 20 especially at this point
> of the cycle.
>
>
> I once had a big time contester come down from NY to do a multi-single. He
> listened on 80 and wanted to know when the signals got better/stronger. I
> broke the news to him. That was a strong as they got. He was quite
> disappointed. End of story.
>
>
> Bill K4XS/KH7XS
>
> . The same way that being in Alabama should provide a BIG advantage vs. New
> England to working Japan, Southeast Asia, UA9/0 and the Pacific even though
> there are not as many stations to work.I?m sure that 100 miles North or South
> makes a big difference on some DX paths in Alabama too but that it is less
> noticeable until that 100 miles gives you a nice water path somewhere and
> then you will REALLY notice the difference.
>
>
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> Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2018 18:19:02 -0600
> From: Chris Hurlbut <chriskl9a@gmail.com>
> To: cqtestk4xs@aol.com
> Cc: cq-contest@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] WRTC which contests qualify
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> Simply commenting on the opinion of SS being a WRTC qualifier, I have to
> disagree.
>
> Not much about SS translates to WRTC, other than maybe accuracy being
> important.
>
> Of course, NAQP is a perfect qualification contest. :)
>
> -Chris KL9A
>
> On Sun, Jul 8, 2018, 5:04 PM Bill via CQ-Contest <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Geographical advantage for ALL of the east coast? Uh, no. I ran a 4 el
>> wire quad at a height of 120-130 ft on 80 meters in central FL and
>> regularly got beat out to EU by W1/W2 stations running inverted vees at 80
>> or 90 ft. There is a difference of around 1300-1400 miles from northern ME
>> to southern FL and no station in FL can compete with a NE station in DX
>> contests. Now for domestic contests that's a different story. That's why
>> putting SS and maybe NAQP in the mix for qualifying is a fair way to go.
>>
>>
>> My choice for qualifying events for US:
>>
>>
>> ARRL DX
>> CQWW
>> WPX
>> SS
>> NAQP
>>
>>
>> It is possible to make a top three or four with a modest station in NAQP
>> and SS if you are a good op. K6LL and others have done it.
>>
>>
>> By the way, if you have a modest station or no station, many good stations
>> are available if you ask. The worst that will happen is the owner will say
>> no. Also, consider using a club station. W4LT has used the Tampa Radio
>> Club station and got first place US in the low power assisted last year.
>>
>>
>> Yeah, it's easier if you have a big station at your QTH, but you can still
>> qualify if you don't. Ask N2NL.
>>
>>
>> Bill KH7XS/K4XS
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Jeff Clarke <ku8e@ku8e.com>
>> To: cq-contest <cq-contest@contesting.com>
>> Sent: Sun, Jul 8, 2018 9:45 pm
>> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] WRTC Qualifying
>>
>>
>> Oh C'Mon!! An east coast station complaining about their propagation ?
>> You got to be kidding right? You really don't realize how well you have it
>> compared to the rest of the country. Only a handful of stations outside the
>> East Coast ever make the top ten box in any category of a DX contest. Come
>> down and operate where I live and you will appreciate what you have. I
>> could probably put up a bunch of big towers and beams and K1AR would still
>> beat me with his wires !! :) Jeff KU8E On 7/8/2018 11:52 AM,
>> rjairam@gmail.com wrote: > Hi Robert, > > In the USA I have operated from
>> Florida, Arkansas and Texas and remotely > from California. > > The
>> difference between NJ and Maine, NH or Vermont can be quite > significant.
>>>> Yes up here it is better than the west coast but in contesting to work
>>> Europe the more North Easterly you are, the better because the band stays
>>> open longer. > > 73 > Ria, N2RJ > > On Sun, Jul 8, 2018 at 9:09 AM robert
>> f beaudoin <wa1fcn@charter.net> wrote: > >> GM Ria >> >>
>> Maybe you have never operated from outside the NorthEast >> USA, but I
>> find it >> >> hard to sympathize with your comment about you as a W2
>> station >> having a geographic >> >> disadvantage against W1 land. Your QTH
>> in N. J. what is that >> 100 miles from W1 land ? >> >> I guess all things
>> are relative but I sure wish I had your >> disadvantage. >> >> 73 and GM
>> from from Alabama WA1FCN >> >> >> On 7/7/2018 8:49 PM, rjairam@gmail.com
>> wrote: >>> I?m looking at my case. Under the current criteria I have not a
>> shot in >>> hell. Mostly because I?m competing with W1 who has an obvious
>> geographic >>> advantage. When it was aligned with US Call districts it was
>> a bit >> easier, >>> but I didn?t really try to qualify then. >>> >>> I
>> guess the dream will have to wait, or I could spend money and build a >>>
>> station in the Caribbean and operate, remotely even. >>> >>> I don?t think
>> it will be possible to be completely fair but qualification >>> rules
>> should prioritize skill first if this is going to be a competition >> of
>>>>> who is the best operator. There are of course some damned good
>> operators >> in >>> there but I think some who may not have access to a
>> super duper station >> get >>> left out. >>> >>> 73 >>> Ria >>> N2RJ >>> On
>> Sat, Jul 7, 2018 at 9:21 PM Jeff Clarke <ku8e@ku8e.com> wrote: >>> >>>>
>> 6. Qualification Score Calculation >>>> >>>> The qualification score is the
>> sum of up to 12 Event Scores. The maximum >>>> possible qualification score
>> is 12.000 for DL, 11.900 for the rest of >is very different, so is the east
>> coast>>> the world.>>>>>>>> 1. A maximum of 4 Event Scores may be from
>> multi-ops (MS/M2/MM).>>>> 2. A maximum of 4 Event Scores can be from
>> outside an applicant?s home>>>> Selection Area (i.e.,
>> DXpeditions).>>>> 3. A maximum of 2 operators may submit scores for a
>> single contest>> from>>>> a MS, 3 from a M2, and 4 from a MM.>>>>
>> 4. If an operator?s callsign appears with more than one entry in a>>>>
>> single qualifying event (e.g., from operating at more than one>>>>
>> station), they may not use any scores from that contest.>>>> 5. In the
>> unlikely case of a tie score for the final qualifying spot>> in>>>> a
>> Selection Area, the applicants will be asked for additional>> scores>>>>
>> beyond those submitted on the application until the tie is
>> broken.>>>>>>>> As long as you operate a station in your own qualification
>> area as a SO>>>> it counts. That would ether be from home OR as a guest
>> operator. That's>>>> how you could qualify without having a station at
>> home.>>>>>>>> Jeff>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/7/2018 05:38 PM, Timothy Coker via
>> CQ-Contest wrote:>>>>> What if you had no home station, let alone a
>> tribander with wires,>> could>>>> you qualify then?>>>>> Tim /
>> N6WIN>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On
>> Saturday, July 7, 2018, 14:16, Igor Sokolov <ua9cdc@gmail.com>>>
>> wrote:>>>>> Yes, this was the first time one could qualify using low
>> power.>>>>> Notwithstanding you have to have big antenna farm because even
>> in Low>>>>> power category there were a lot of competitors. And yes, some
>> of those>>>>> who have big stations did bother with doing low power.
>> Tribander and>>>>> wires from the city lot is not enough to qualify for
>> WRTC regardless of>>>>> power.>>>>>>>>>> 73, Igor UA9CDC>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> 07.07.2018 22:03, Jeff Clarke ?????:>>>>>> It's possible to qualify by
>> doing low power. Your score would be>>>>>> compared to others that are
>> doing low power and not the high power>>>>>> scores. If you do that you
>> won't have to compete again the "big gun">>>>>> stations in your region.
>> Plus you aren't getting any reduction in>>>>>> score ( getting the same
>> number of points same as HP SO guys) like>>>>>> someone who did Multi-Ops.
>> I really doubt someone who has a big>>>>>> station would want to bother
>> with doing low power.>>>>>>>>>>>> If I'm not mistaken Julio, AD4Z, who is
>> one of the team leaders in our>>>>>> region (NA-002) did this and
>> qualified.>>>>>>>>>>>> Jeff KU8E>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/6/2018 11:11 PM,
>> Timothy Coker via CQ-Contest wrote:>>>>>>> I think what?s most interesting
>> is the guys I know who typically win>>>>>>> don?t spend a lot of time
>> complaining... they spend a lot of time>>>>>>> working at what makes them
>> winners.>>>>>>> I can also think of some people who won/win that don?t have
>> deep>>>>>>> pockets at all.>>>>>>> Some of the best operators don?t
>> actually have big stations. Not>>>>>>> taking away from the big station
>> owners at all, as some of them are>>>>>>> great operators themselves.
>> However, many are willing to let the>>>>>>> latest up and coming great
>> operators take their station seats to show>>>>>>> what can be done.>>>>>>>
>> It makes sense to me because it takes a lot of time and effort to>>>>>>>
>> either build or work to pay for others to build something expensive.>>>>>>>
>> That same time is thus not spent on honing operating skills.>>>>>>> Very
>> similar to how many athletes aren?t rich until after (and not>>>>>>> for
>> all) they have worked so very hard to win and are given>> noteriety.>>>>>>>
>> If a guy wants to remote or travel into my area and he beats me, so>>>>>>>
>> be it... time for me to get better. Or maybe I don?t want to put in>>>>>>>
>> the same operating skills effort that he did and thus I?ll just hope>>>>>>>
>> he doesn?t return.>>>>>>> Competition is great... it shows how hard we are
>> willing to work, or>>>>>>> not.>>>>>>> Tim / N6WIN.>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from
>> Yahoo Mail for iPhone>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Friday, July 6, 2018, 14:45,
>> Jim via CQ-Contest>>>>>>> <cq-contest@contesting.com>
>> wrote:>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have a somewhat different perspective, being an Ohio
>> snowbird who>>>>>>> spends half the year in Florida. As a practical matter
>> I could not>>>>>>> qualify without a lot of travel or remote operating from
>> W8. And I?m>>>>>>> not that stupid to head north from Florida in February
>> :-)>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I had my shot at WRTC in 2014 (as N1U with partner K9NW),
>> but I>>>>>>> didn?t compete to qualify for 2018, and don?t see me trying
>> to>>>>>>> qualify for future WRTCs, so don?t take these comments as being
>> self>>>>>>> serving.>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If a W6 resident wants to operate from
>> W1, let him do so, comparing>>>>>>> his scores with other W1 entrants. And
>> conversely, if a guy living in>>>>>>> W1 is crazy enough to want to operate
>> CQWW from W6, thinking the>>>>>>> qualifying competition there might be
>> less, why stop him? Again,>>>>>>> compare his W6 score with other W6
>> scores, and let the WRTC>>>>>>> qualifying points go into his home W1
>> account.>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So long as a person is a legitimate resident of his
>> qualifying area,>>>>>>> why stop him from operating from anywhere in the
>> world, whether in>>>>>>> person or remotely? I don?t have a problem to
>> allow someone like>>>>>>> LZ4AX to qualify from W3, but I would not let
>> people become>>>>>>> ?Africans? solely by virtue of a bunch of operating
>> from zone 33.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 73 - Jim K8MR>>>>>>>>>>>>>> p.s.
>> Keep in mind the motto of the Florida Contest Group: Sooner or>>>>>>>
>> later, you?ll be one of us!>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 6,
>> 2018, at 4:16 PM, WW3S <ww3s@zoominternet.net> wrote:>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A
>> west coast ham, operating a remote station with antennas in Maine,>>>>>>>>
>> should be competing as if he/she were physically in Maine.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> Sent from my iPad>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 5, 2018, at 11:56 PM, David
>> Siddall <hhamwv@gmail.com>>> wrote:>>>>>>>>> A W6 ham resident in
>> California that operates a station on the east>>>>>>>>> coast,>>>>>>>>>
>> whether by physical or remote means, could not qualify to be a
>> team>>>>>>>>> leader>>>>>>>>> for the WRTC2018. Rule 7.5 - 7.7, subject to
>> Rule 6.2.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 73, Dave K3ZJ>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On
>> Thu, Jul 5, 2018 at 5:52 PM, Carol Richards <n2mm@comcast.net>>>>>>>>>>>
>> wrote:>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>> agree....where you operate _from_ should determine what region>>
>> you>>>>>>>>>> compete in. A W6 in California operating a remote station on
>> the>>>>>>>>>> East coast>>>>>>>>>> should not be grouped with other East
>> coast stations to qualify>>>>>>>>>> for WRTC.>>>>>>>>>> This remote
>> category is getting out of hand.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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