Geographical advantage for ALL of the east coast? Uh, no. I ran a 4 el wire
quad at a height of 120-130 ft on 80 meters in central FL and regularly got
beat out to EU by W1/W2 stations running inverted vees at 80 or 90 ft. There
is a difference of around 1300-1400 miles from northern ME to southern FL and
no station in FL can compete with a NE station in DX contests. Now for
domestic contests that's a different story. That's why putting SS and maybe
NAQP in the mix for qualifying is a fair way to go.
My choice for qualifying events for US:
ARRL DX
CQWW
WPX
SS
NAQP
It is possible to make a top three or four with a modest station in NAQP and SS
if you are a good op. K6LL and others have done it.
By the way, if you have a modest station or no station, many good stations are
available if you ask. The worst that will happen is the owner will say no.
Also, consider using a club station. W4LT has used the Tampa Radio Club
station and got first place US in the low power assisted last year.
Yeah, it's easier if you have a big station at your QTH, but you can still
qualify if you don't. Ask N2NL.
Bill KH7XS/K4XS
-----Original Message-----
From: Jeff Clarke <ku8e@ku8e.com>
To: cq-contest <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Sun, Jul 8, 2018 9:45 pm
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] WRTC Qualifying
Oh C'Mon!! An east coast station complaining about their propagation ? You
got to be kidding right? You really don't realize how well you have it compared
to the rest of the country. Only a handful of stations outside the East Coast
ever make the top ten box in any category of a DX contest. Come down and
operate where I live and you will appreciate what you have. I could probably
put up a bunch of big towers and beams and K1AR would still beat me with his
wires !! :) Jeff KU8E On 7/8/2018 11:52 AM, rjairam@gmail.com wrote: > Hi
Robert, > > In the USA I have operated from Florida, Arkansas and Texas and
remotely > from California. > > The difference between NJ and Maine, NH or
Vermont can be quite > significant. > > Yes up here it is better than the west
coast but in contesting to work > Europe the more North Easterly you are, the
better because the band stays > open longer. > > 73 > Ria, N2RJ > > On Sun, Jul
8, 2018 at 9:09 AM robert f beaudoin <wa1fcn@charter.net> wrote: > >> GM Ria >>
>> Maybe you have never operated from outside the NorthEast >>
USA, but I find it >> >> hard to sympathize with your comment about you as a W2
station >> having a geographic >> >> disadvantage against W1 land. Your QTH in
N. J. what is that >> 100 miles from W1 land ? >> >> I guess all things are
relative but I sure wish I had your >> disadvantage. >> >> 73 and GM from from
Alabama WA1FCN >> >> >> On 7/7/2018 8:49 PM, rjairam@gmail.com wrote: >>> I’m
looking at my case. Under the current criteria I have not a shot in >>> hell.
Mostly because I’m competing with W1 who has an obvious geographic >>>
advantage. When it was aligned with US Call districts it was a bit >> easier,
>>> but I didn’t really try to qualify then. >>> >>> I guess the dream will
have to wait, or I could spend money and build a >>> station in the Caribbean
and operate, remotely even. >>> >>> I don’t think it will be possible to be
completely fair but qualification >>> rules should prioritize skill first if
this is going to be a competition >> of >>> who is the best operator. There are
of course some damned good operators >> in >>> there but I think some who may
not have access to a super duper station >> get >>> left out. >>> >>> 73 >>>
Ria >>> N2RJ >>> On Sat, Jul 7, 2018 at 9:21 PM Jeff Clarke <ku8e@ku8e.com>
wrote: >>> >>>> 6. Qualification Score Calculation >>>> >>>> The qualification
score is the sum of up to 12 Event Scores. The maximum >>>> possible
qualification score is 12.000 for DL, 11.900 for the rest of >is very
different, so is the east coast>>> the world.>>>>>>>> 1. A maximum of 4
Event Scores may be from multi-ops (MS/M2/MM).>>>> 2. A maximum of 4 Event
Scores can be from outside an applicant’s home>>>> Selection Area (i.e.,
DXpeditions).>>>> 3. A maximum of 2 operators may submit scores for a single
contest>> from>>>> a MS, 3 from a M2, and 4 from a MM.>>>> 4. If an
operator’s callsign appears with more than one entry in a>>>> single
qualifying event (e.g., from operating at more than one>>>> station),
they may not use any scores from that contest.>>>> 5. In the unlikely case
of a tie score for the final qualifying spot>> in>>>> a Selection Area,
the applicants will be asked for additional>> scores>>>> beyond those
submitted on the application until the tie is broken.>>>>>>>> As long as you
operate a station in your own qualification area as a SO>>>> it counts. That
would ether be from home OR as a guest operator. That's>>>> how you could
qualify without having a station at home.>>>>>>>> Jeff>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/7/2018
05:38 PM, Timothy Coker via CQ-Contest wrote:>>>>> What if you had no home
station, let alone a tribander with wires,>> could>>>> you qualify then?>>>>>
Tim / N6WIN>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On
Saturday, July 7, 2018, 14:16, Igor Sokolov <ua9cdc@gmail.com>>> wrote:>>>>>
Yes, this was the first time one could qualify using low power.>>>>>
Notwithstanding you have to have big antenna farm because even in Low>>>>>
power category there were a lot of competitors. And yes, some of those>>>>> who
have big stations did bother with doing low power. Tribander and>>>>> wires
from the city lot is not enough to qualify for WRTC regardless of>>>>>
power.>>>>>>>>>> 73, Igor UA9CDC>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 07.07.2018 22:03, Jeff Clarke
пишет:>>>>>> It's possible to qualify by doing low power. Your score would
be>>>>>> compared to others that are doing low power and not the high
power>>>>>> scores. If you do that you won't have to compete again the "big
gun">>>>>> stations in your region. Plus you aren't getting any reduction
in>>>>>> score ( getting the same number of points same as HP SO guys)
like>>>>>> someone who did Multi-Ops. I really doubt someone who has a
big>>>>>> station would want to bother with doing low power.>>>>>>>>>>>> If I'm
not mistaken Julio, AD4Z, who is one of the team leaders in our>>>>>> region
(NA-002) did this and qualified.>>>>>>>>>>>> Jeff KU8E>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On
7/6/2018 11:11 PM, Timothy Coker via CQ-Contest wrote:>>>>>>> I think what’s
most interesting is the guys I know who typically win>>>>>>> don’t spend a lot
of time complaining... they spend a lot of time>>>>>>> working at what makes
them winners.>>>>>>> I can also think of some people who won/win that don’t
have deep>>>>>>> pockets at all.>>>>>>> Some of the best operators don’t
actually have big stations. Not>>>>>>> taking away from the big station owners
at all, as some of them are>>>>>>> great operators themselves. However, many
are willing to let the>>>>>>> latest up and coming great operators take their
station seats to show>>>>>>> what can be done.>>>>>>> It makes sense to me
because it takes a lot of time and effort to>>>>>>> either build or work to pay
for others to build something expensive.>>>>>>> That same time is thus not
spent on honing operating skills.>>>>>>> Very similar to how many athletes
aren’t rich until after (and not>>>>>>> for all) they have worked so very hard
to win and are given>> noteriety.>>>>>>> If a guy wants to remote or travel
into my area and he beats me, so>>>>>>> be it... time for me to get better. Or
maybe I don’t want to put in>>>>>>> the same operating skills effort that he
did and thus I’ll just hope>>>>>>> he doesn’t return.>>>>>>> Competition is
great... it shows how hard we are willing to work, or>>>>>>> not.>>>>>>> Tim /
N6WIN.>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On
Friday, July 6, 2018, 14:45, Jim via CQ-Contest>>>>>>>
<cq-contest@contesting.com> wrote:>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have a somewhat different
perspective, being an Ohio snowbird who>>>>>>> spends half the year in Florida.
As a practical matter I could not>>>>>>> qualify without a lot of travel or
remote operating from W8. And I’m>>>>>>> not that stupid to head north from
Florida in February :-)>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I had my shot at WRTC in 2014 (as N1U
with partner K9NW), but I>>>>>>> didn’t compete to qualify for 2018, and don’t
see me trying to>>>>>>> qualify for future WRTCs, so don’t take these comments
as being self>>>>>>> serving.>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If a W6 resident wants to operate
from W1, let him do so, comparing>>>>>>> his scores with other W1 entrants. And
conversely, if a guy living in>>>>>>> W1 is crazy enough to want to operate
CQWW from W6, thinking the>>>>>>> qualifying competition there might be less,
why stop him? Again,>>>>>>> compare his W6 score with other W6 scores, and let
the WRTC>>>>>>> qualifying points go into his home W1 account.>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So
long as a person is a legitimate resident of his qualifying area,>>>>>>> why
stop him from operating from anywhere in the world, whether in>>>>>>> person or
remotely? I don’t have a problem to allow someone like>>>>>>> LZ4AX to qualify
from W3, but I would not let people become>>>>>>> “Africans” solely by virtue
of a bunch of operating from zone 33.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 73 - Jim
K8MR>>>>>>>>>>>>>> p.s. Keep in mind the motto of the Florida Contest Group:
Sooner or>>>>>>> later, you’ll be one of
us!>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 6, 2018, at 4:16 PM, WW3S
<ww3s@zoominternet.net> wrote:>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A west coast ham, operating a
remote station with antennas in Maine,>>>>>>>> should be competing as if he/she
were physically in Maine.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPad>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On
Jul 5, 2018, at 11:56 PM, David Siddall <hhamwv@gmail.com>>> wrote:>>>>>>>>> A
W6 ham resident in California that operates a station on the east>>>>>>>>>
coast,>>>>>>>>> whether by physical or remote means, could not qualify to be a
team>>>>>>>>> leader>>>>>>>>> for the WRTC2018. Rule 7.5 - 7.7, subject to
Rule 6.2.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 73, Dave K3ZJ>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu,
Jul 5, 2018 at 5:52 PM, Carol Richards <n2mm@comcast.net>>>>>>>>>>>
wrote:>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I agree....where
you operate _from_ should determine what region>> you>>>>>>>>>> compete in. A
W6 in California operating a remote station on the>>>>>>>>>> East
coast>>>>>>>>>> should not be grouped with other East coast stations to
qualify>>>>>>>>>> for WRTC.>>>>>>>>>> This remote category is getting out of
hand.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Carol>>>>>>>
_______________________________________________>>>>>>> CQ-Contest mailing
list>>>>>>> CQ-Contest@contesting.com>>>>>>>
http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
_______________________________________________>>>>>>> CQ-Contest mailing
list>>>>>>> CQ-Contest@contesting.com>>>>>>>
http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest>>>>>
_______________________________________________>>>>> CQ-Contest mailing
list>>>>> CQ-Contest@contesting.com>>>>>
http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
_______________________________________________>>>>> CQ-Contest mailing
list>>>>> CQ-Contest@contesting.com>>>>>
http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest>>>> -->>>> *Jeff
Clarke*>>>> Information Technology Professional>>>> Ellerslie, Georgia>>>>>>>>
KU8E.com <http://www.ku8e.com/>>>>>>>>> My LinkedIn Profile
<https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffrey-clarke-ga>>>>>
_______________________________________________>>>> CQ-Contest mailing list>>>>
CQ-Contest@contesting.com>>>>
http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest>>>>>>>
_______________________________________________>>> CQ-Contest mailing list>>>
CQ-Contest@contesting.com>>>
http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest>>
_______________________________________________>> CQ-Contest mailing list>>
CQ-Contest@contesting.com>>
http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest>>>
_______________________________________________> CQ-Contest mailing list>
CQ-Contest@contesting.com>
http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest-- *Jeff
Clarke*Information Technology ProfessionalEllerslie, GeorgiaKU8E.com
<http://www.ku8e.com/>My LinkedIn Profile
<https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffrey-clarke-ga>_______________________________________________CQ-Contest
mailing
listCQ-Contest@contesting.comhttp://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
_______________________________________________
CQ-Contest mailing list
CQ-Contest@contesting.com
http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
|