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Re: [CQ-Contest] CQWW 160 CW: Early Hours Suggestion

To: "k9yc@arrl.net" <k9yc@arrl.net>, "cq-contest@contesting.com" <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] CQWW 160 CW: Early Hours Suggestion
From: Rudy Bakalov via CQ-Contest <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Reply-to: Rudy Bakalov <r_bakalov@yahoo.com>
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2016 16:21:27 +0000 (UTC)
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You guys should try the RAEM contest. Must be one of the most frustrating ones 
as nobody bothers listening towards NA.

 Rudy N2WQ

      From: Jim Brown <k9yc@audiosystemsgroup.com>
 To: cq-contest@contesting.com 
 Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2016 12:02 AM
 Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] CQWW 160 CW: Early Hours Suggestion
   
On Fri,1/29/2016 9:05 AM, jmaass@k8nd.com wrote:
> One of the things I did during the "off season" is analyze one of our 
> frustrations: the fact that we can hear Europe at the beginning of the 
> contest, but they*never*  answer us.

I also experience this operating from NorCal -- during the first hours 
of a Topband contest, we hear a lot of the better equipped stations east 
of Chicago, but almost without exception, they don't hear us.  W8JI has 
analyzed this as a matter of SNR -- the easternmost station has a higher 
noise level because the path is in darkness to the east, while we, in 
full daylight, have only daytime noise levels. I believe that another 
factor is that the east coast stations are all listening to NE RX antennas.

During those first few hours in daylight, I can work 800 miles with high 
power, but only on a vertically polarized antenna.

> One other peeve to address, especially for Europe stations: if you call CQ, 
> PLEASE allow enough time between calls for someone to be heard!  Often, there 
> is insufficient time even for our short 'PJ2T' call to be complete before the 
> next CQ has begun. It's not like 20-meters: Topband requires a bit more 
> listening time to allow for QSB and to allow you to listen on ALL your 
> receiving antennas for those responding!

Yes, I have the same frustration with stations not listening. Part of 
listening is trying different RX antennas and digging for weaker 
signals. You can't do that in 2 seconds!

73, Jim K9YC

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