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Re: [CQ-Contest] Preview of CQWW Rules 2015

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Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Preview of CQWW Rules 2015
From: Bob Kupps via CQ-Contest <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Reply-to: Bob Kupps <n6bk@yahoo.com>
Date: Sat, 23 May 2015 18:48:08 -0700
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I'm betting that all of these "techniques" have already been totally automated 
by someone out there. 

How about a "No Operator" category? That appears to be the inevitable future of 
contesting.
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On Sun, 5/24/15, Randy Thompson K5ZD <k5zd@charter.net> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Preview of CQWW Rules 2015
 To: john@kk9a.com, cq-contest@contesting.com
 Date: Sunday, May 24, 2015, 3:03 AM
 
 Be careful when you make statements
 like this. " I do not see any
 competitive advantage to using [CW decoder]..."
 
 Let's say that a CW single op wants to try to run on two
 bands at the same
 time. He sets up his dueling CQ macros so that while he is
 copying the
 exchange on one radio, he is transmitting a CQ on the
 other.
 
 This works, but it is difficult to shift concentration
 between the two
 radios, especially when you have stations calling at the
 same time you are
 finishing copying an exchange.
 
 Now let's say he puts a CW decoder on the audio output of
 one or both
 radios.  While he finishes copying the exchange, a list
 of calls is
 appearing in the CW decoder or in his logging
 software.  He clicks on a call
 or hits a macro function key to grab the call and start
 sending the
 exchange. He may never have heard the station that he is
 responding to.
 
 The future is going to have more and more of this kind of
 software
 automation and technology convergence. Things are never what
 they appear
 when first introduced.  SCP is a good example.  We
 might classify it
 differently if it appeared today.  
 
 Ultimately, I see a future where all single ops are the in
 the same class
 and free to use whatever technology they can handle. 
 At the same time,
 there will be a protected category where the "boy and his
 radio" guys can
 identify themselves and compete against like-minded
 contesters.
 
 Until then, we have to draw lines.  
 
 Imagine another future where simply putting your mouse over
 a signal in an
 SDR starts decoding the CW.  Or what if the software
 defined radio included
 displaying a text waterfall rather than signals? You could
 just read the
 band!  The mind boggles.
 
 I had never considered using a CW decoder to put an op in
 assistance until
 the scenario above not only happened, but clearly
 demonstrated an advantage!
 We need to decide what skills a contest should test.
 
 Randy, K5ZD
 
 
 
 
 > -----Original Message-----
 > From: CQ-Contest [mailto:cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com]
 On Behalf Of
 > john@kk9a.com
 > Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2015 6:32 PM
 > To: cq-contest@contesting.com
 > Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Preview of CQWW Rules 2015
 > 
 > So using a CW Decoder now puts you in the assisted
 category? I do not see
 > any competitive advantage to using one and it allows
 less proficient
 > operators to enjoy the contest. Will a RTTY decoder be
 allowed in CQWW
 > RTTY?
 > Certainly using Super Check Partial or prefills offers
 more assistance
 > than a CW decoder.
 > 
 > John KK9A
 > 
 > 
 > To:    cq-contest@contesting.com
 > Subject:    Re: [CQ-Contest] Preview of
 CQWW Rules 2015
 > From:    Steve London <n2icarrl@gmail.com>
 > Reply-to:    n2ic@arrl.net
 > Date:    Fri, 22 May 2015 07:56:31
 -0600
 > 
 > On 05/21/2015 11:10 PM, Dick Green WC1M wrote:
 > Comments on CWWW Rules 2015:
 > 
 > VIII. DEFINITION OF TERMS
 > 
 > 2. QSO alerting assistance
 > 
 > The only thing the change does is prohibit
 single-frequency CW decoders,
 > which provide no competitive advantage and may be
 needed by ops with
 > hearing problems.
 > 
 > It doesn't "prohibit" single-frequency CW decoders, it
 just means that
 > use of a single-frequency CW decoder places you in the
 Assisted category.
 > What's so bad about that ?
 > 
 > 73,
 > Steve, N2IC
 > 
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