Actually I believe that they don't know how bad they sound. After I bought
my previous radio, (FT1000), I thought it was pretty good and got a lot of
complements. One day W8JI sent me a polite e-mail and said that I had bad
key clicks. I found out there was a partial fix and got it done. Now I
realize that most Yaesu radios have Clicks and Icom isn't much better! I
very much appreciated W8JI letting me know. I don't believe that most of
those awful SSB signals done are on purpose, they just don't know any
better. We need to do a better job of letting these folks know about their
signals without being too rude. If you are too "in their face", they will
just turn you off. Your purpose should be to get them to be better, not make
them mad!
Bill W5VX
-----Original Message-----
From: CQ-Contest [mailto:cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of
Kelly Taylor
Sent: Friday, April 10, 2015 2:05 PM
To: Mike Fatchett W0MU; George via CQ-Contest
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Excessive Bandwidth Rule was: Re: Suggestion for
Cabrillo -- and the phone skimmer, new idea
They either do it on purpose or they're so convinced of their technological
greatness they've convinced themselves their audio is perfect.
Either way, mentioning it won't have much effect: it will either confirm to
them they set it the way they intended (more complaints the better), or
they'll dismiss you as a technological pretender with no real knowledge,
and, by the way, 'How DARE you have the temerity to question my audiological
prowess? Don't you know who I am?'
The best fix is for everybody to vote with their feet. Don't work 'em.
73, kelly
ve4xt
On 4/10/15 12:52 PM, "Mike Fatchett W0MU" <w0mu@w0mu.com> wrote:
> I have never understood thought process behind not publicly "outing"
> the
>
offenders. Most of them know they have crappy or very wide audio. They do
> it on purpose.
The best medicine would to pass these lousy signals by but
> people won't
because they have to have that one contact, at least tell them
> their
audio is lousy and you hope that nobody reports them, ahem.....
Mike
> W0MU
On 4/10/2015 5:09 AM, Pete Smith N4ZR wrote:
> Not only that, but the
> number of awards thereafter could be halved,
> saving ARRL and other
> societies lots of money.
>
> But seriously, folks, can you imagine the mess
> that would result if
> the same phone ops who "amuse" us with their lousy
> audio added either
> subaudible tones or 100 wpm CW to their awful
> signals.
>
> I'm waiting with interest to see whether CQWW follows through on
> rule
> XII (A) (5) and disciplines at least a few stations for
>
> excessivebandwidth. I'm not interested in outing a list of those
>
> disciplined, necessarily, but I hope at least the number of actions
> taken
> is made public, so that people know the committee is serious.
> With the
> tools now available, in particular whole contest recordings
> and SDR
> panadaptors, it should be possible to objectively define
> excessive
> bandwidth (e.g., level in dB relative to peak amplitude,
> versus frequency
> difference).
>
> 73, Pete N4ZR
> Check out the Reverse Beacon Network at
>
> http://reversebeacon.net,
> blog at reversebeacon.blogspot.com.
> For spots,
> please go to your favorite
> ARC V6 or VE7CC DX cluster node.
>
> On 4/10/2015
> 12:55 AM, Bokverket wrote:
>> ----- Ursprungligt meddelande -----
>> Från:
> "Bokverket" <info@bokverket.com>
>> Till: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
>>
> Skickat: den 9 april 2015 13:15
>> Ämne: Suggestion for Cabrillo -- and the
> phone skimmer, new idea
>>
>>
>> Rarely do one's wishes be fulfilled so soon,
> even retroactively!
>>
>> Goran/SM0DRD, who thinks that hte subaudible tones
> that someone
>> mentioned
>> would be a great step towards a quick
> realization of the phone
>> skimmer. But
>> even better would be ***
> combining cw and SSB into one signal ***
>> The cw
>> could be sent at 100
> or something wpm like a rattle, just as with those
>> obsolete spy
> transmissions. It won't disturb the audio since there is so
>> much overdrive
> noise already, and can then be detected easily by a new
>> version of the cw
> skimmer.
>>
>> But what's more, we could halve the number of contests!!! Save
> countless
>> $$'s and marriages. And for die-hard cw only people, the number
> of
>> contacts
>> will increase and the extra transmitted phone messages can
> be
>> automatically
>> generated.
>>
>> 73,
>> Goran/SM0DRD
>>
>>
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