I remember the lengthy discussion, and IIRC, there was no consensus: namely,
that the inclusion of a sample wasn't necessarily an indication that the rules
demanded it.
However, I like the use of the example and it kinda throws me when an op omits
his call (having already sent it), but I do not know of any operators who
receive any kind of sanction for same.
73, Kelly
ve4xt
Sent from my iPhone
> On Nov 21, 2013, at 12:12, "David Siddall" <hhamwv@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Kelly,
>
> You are right in my book too. But one exception is sweepstakes. I don't
> know the rationale, but some years ago the ARRL contest manager ruled that
> in sweepstakes only discrete complete exchanges are allowed. This extra
> requirement doesn't seem to appear explicitly in the current rules (at
> least that I can find), but I remember a lengthy thread on the subject on
> this reflector.
>
> Example 1: NOT PERMITTED even though all required exchange information
> transmitted & received.
>
> VE4XT: CQ CQ SS de VE4XT
> K3ZJ: K3ZJ
> VE4XT: K3ZJ 145 A 66 MB
>
> Example 2: Required exchange necessitates repeating call.
>
> VE4XT: CQ CQ SS de VE4XT
> K3ZJ: K3ZJ
> VE4XT: K3ZJ 145 A VE4XT 66 MB
>
> 73, Dave K3ZJ
>
> *-.-. --.-*
>
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> *Wed Nov 20 22:27:59 EST 2013*
>
> That depends. If the receiving station heard the callsign, then the
> callsign was sent, even if people who came late to the frequency
> didn't hear it.
>
> An example:
>
> qrz, w1xyz
> (vy2zm and g3tuc are now listening and know who is on frequency.
> (IOW, they've heard w1xyz send his call))
> vy2zm
> vy2zm 599 05
> 599 05
> tu
> g3tuc
> g3tuc 599 05
> 599 14
> tu
> k1zz
> k1zz 599 05
> CL?
> w1xyz
> r w1xyz 599 05
>
> In my book, all three QSOs are legit. Everybody received w1xyz's call.
>
> Am I right?
>
> 73, Kelly
> ve4xt
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