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Re: [CQ-Contest] Keeping 'em honest

To: w5ov@w5ov.com, pvrc@mailman.qth.net, cq-contest@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Keeping 'em honest
From: Art Boyars <artboyars@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2010 11:29:04 -0500
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Thanks, Bob.  I guess I should have worked harder to explain it the first
time.

73, Art K3KU

On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 11:23 AM, <w5ov@w5ov.com> wrote:

> Art,
>
> I'm glad this was not as simple as it appeared in your original post.
>
> Given what you said, he may not have logged you at all since you heard no
> confirmation from "4Q2OM".
>
> In this scenario, I think your not logging "4Q2OM" is prudent rather than
> punitive - in contrast with how you originally described it.
>
> 73,
>
> Bob W5OV
>
>
>
> > Responding to W5OV (below) --
> >
> > Not at all, Bob, not at all.  When I say that the DX did not, as far as I
> > could tell, acknowledge my report I did NOT mean the typical:
> >
> > "CQ TEST 4Q2OM"
> >       "k3ku"
> > "K3KU 5NN41"
> >       "5nn05"
> > "TU 4Q2OM TEST"  or even   "4Q2OM"   or even   "TU"
> >
> > In cases like that it's clear that the runner is "acknowledging" by
> > continuing the run.
> >
> > Rather, as a really weak station (and many CQ-Contest subscribers might
> > not
> > fully understand this), what I get is
> > something like this:
> >
> > "CQ TEST 4Q2OM"
> >      "k3ku"
> > "K3?"   or   "K3KO?"   or   "U?"
> >      "k3ku   k3 k u"
> > "K3KA?"
> >      "k3ku  k3 k u"
> > "K3KU 5NN41"          [BTW, I hv noticed tt other op's can cpy
> >                                   my cl much btr nw tt we hv SCP]
> >      "5nn05"
> >
> > [silence]
> >
> >      "5nn05 5nn05"    [Geez! This is CQ WW.  He has my call.
> >                                All he has to do is hear some noise from
> me
> >                                at the appropriate time to "copy" my
> > report]
> > "... KU 59941"
> >      "5nn05 5nn05"
> > "... U 5NN41"
> >      "5nn05 5nn05"
> > "... ST 4Q2OM"
> >      "k3ku k3ku"
> > "... Q TEST 4Q2OM"
> >      "k3ku k3ku"
> > "CQ TEST 4Q2OM"
> > "CQ TEST 4Q2OM"
> >
> > Do YOU think he "copied" my report, or even heard me again after he (or
> > SCP)
> > got my call that first time?  I do not think so.  So I did not log the
> > QSO.
> > And I do not think he should log it.  So I submit my log just to keep 'em
> > honest.
> >
> > You are welcome to disagree.
> >
> > And it's a good thing that I can laugh at myself.  Otherwise, after a few
> > QSOs like that, contesting would be no fun.
> >
> > 73, Art K3KU
> > " K3KF ? ? "
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 8:01 AM, Bob Naumann <W5OV@w5ov.com> wrote:
> >
> >> OK Art, so let me see if I understand you correctly...
> >>
> >> You're submitting your log, with some QSOS intentionally removed,
> >> because
> >> someone who did not respond how you wanted them to, in order to
> >> intentionally stick it to them ("I want them to suffer the penalty")?
> >>
> >> Wow. I hope this doesn't catch on.
> >>
> >> 73,
> >>
> >> Bob W5OV
> >
>
>
>
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