I think we need to address all forms of cheating. I was surprised by the
calls of the stations that were doing this.
You address what you can. Why has excessive power never been addressed?
Simply because there is no way for the sponsor or us to really know how much
a station is running. Same for remote receivers. How could you possibly
know who might by using such a tool? Skimmer is another technology that is
nearly impossible to police.
I would agree that an informal net of non competitive participants is
probably not a big deal in the big picture but should not be condoned. All
entrants should adhere to all the same rules not just some of them because
they don't have a big score or big station etc.
Participants can do as they wish. Contestants or competitors need to follow
the rules.
Integrity in the sport seems to be waning with an emphasis on winning at any
cost.
Mike
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-----Original Message-----
From: cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com
[mailto:cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Robert Naumann
Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2009 6:34 AM
To: cq-contest@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] ETHICS
While this may be on the fringe of ethical behavior, it certainly is not a
way to win a contest.
This sort of an informal "net" operation used to be somewhat routine years
ago when I was a kid. Those of us who did not have big stations might
congregate on one frequency and have one station call CQ. Anyone who called
in potentially got a QSO with all of us on frequency - if the station could
hear us. No one would be winning anything and no harm was done.
I think there are more urgent matters to be concerned with relative to real
cheating - specifically: remote receiver technology.
73,
Bob W5OV
-----Original Message-----
From: cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com
[mailto:cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of W0MU Mike Fatchett
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 10:54 PM
To: 'VK4TI'; cq-contest@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] ETHICS
That is wrong in many ways assuming these stations were really competing and
intend to submit a log. If not there is not much that can be done.
>From the Rules:
(e) All operation must take place from one operating site. Transmitters and
receivers must be located within a 500-meter diameter circle or within the
property limits of the station licensee, whichever is greater. All antennas
must be physically connected by wires to the transmitters and receivers used
by the entrant.
A. Single Operator Categories: Only one person (the operator) can contribute
to the final score during the official contest period. QSO alerting
assistance of any kind (this includes, but is not limited to, use of packet,
local or remote call and frequency decoding technology, Skimmer, Internet
chat rooms or web sites) places the entrant in the Single Operator Assisted
category.
Sounds like a clear violation to me.
How can a station in another country call CQ legally for another station?
Station A was receiving assistance from Station B so that could classify
them into the Assisted category.
If you have a recording I would forward that on to the Sponsor of the
contest and a written detailed account of what you heard.
CC Packet Cluster W0MU-1
W0MU.NET or 67.40.148.194
"A slip of the foot you may soon recover, but a slip of the tongue you may
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-----Original Message-----
From: cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com
[mailto:cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of VK4TI
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 4:20 PM
To: "Undisclosed-Recipient:;"@hosted01.westnet.com.au
Subject: [CQ-Contest] ETHICS
During the WPX SSB on forty metres I noticed getting through the european
wall was tough from VK...tuning across the band I came across a very strong
EU station calling CQ contest for him and an antipodean station (someone
downunder) ie CQ CONTEST XX1XX and ZZ1ZZ on the same frequency.....basically
operating as a way of opening the band for the other station.....so
basically as a team they channeled contacts from either end to each other...
is this in the spirit of the contest or in fact contesting in general..?
Essentially we could setup a remote station in the US EU ASIA and chanel
contacts to our main station...or is that already going on and deemed OK..
Trent VK4TI
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