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Re: [Amps] pole transformer

To: "'Carl'" <km1h@jeremy.mv.com>, "'Jim Smith'" <j-r-smith@sbcglobal.net>, <Amps@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [Amps] pole transformer
From: "Alex Eban" <alexeban@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 16:30:36 +0200
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Hi guys:
I think you got to overstretching the subject!
Did any one of you get a good draught of gas lately?
If not, why PCB?
Drop it, guys. No chemical is totally safe! Treat it with due respect and
button the subject up.
In any case, if you don't build up a radio station, such a transformer won't
sit well on anybody's table.
73  and all the best:
Alex    4Z5KS

-----Original Message-----
From: amps-bounces@contesting.com [mailto:amps-bounces@contesting.com] On
Behalf Of Carl
Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 3:47 PM
To: Jim Smith; Amps@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [Amps] pole transformer

Its strange that my post takes about 20 hours to show up and yours took 
12.

Makes me wonder if they are being screened.

In any event I respect your views but unfortunately it does not seem 
reciprocal.

I see no need to continue. Im pushing 70 and my last complete physical 2 
months ago was great so I can assume that any exposure 30-40 years ago 
was inconsequential. Im not particularly concerned by any casual 
exposure in the present <g>

Carl
KM1H





----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim Smith" <j-r-smith@sbcglobal.net>
To: <Amps@contesting.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 8:40 PM
Subject: Re: [Amps] pole transformer


> Carl,
> I think everyone understands both of our positions so I won't bother 
> taking
> up any more reflector bandwidth on the subject beyond this message; 
> but no,
> I'm going to stay right here on my pedestal calling them as I see them
> unless you can convince the moderator to block responsible opposing 
> views.
>
> Wikipedia is not the source, it just summarizes the data. There are 
> plenty
> of links to the referenced materials for you to check out yourself. 
> There
> are plenty of other places to look for information as well.
>
> It's all just evidence. You can't prove anything, just like you can't 
> prove
> smoking causes cancer. But if the EPA bans it, making it illegal to
> manufacture and sell in most applications, I see no reason to take an
> unnecessary risk with it.
>
> I'll admit, I'm a little too conservative for some people. I have to 
> be in
> my line of work. I always err on the side of safety. Those who don't 
> end up
> getting sued, even if they just gave the customer what they insisted 
> on.
>
> You're twisting my words again. I never said you intentionally try to
> physically hurt anyone. I don't see any need to repeat what I said yet
> again.
>
> Jim Smith
> KQ6UV
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Carl [mailto:km1h@jeremy.mv.com]
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 5:30 AM
>> To: Jim Smith; Amps@contesting.com
>> Subject: Re: [Amps] pole transformer
>>
>> I guess you need to come down off your pedestal Jim and try to
>> understand what I said.
>>
>> I was not advocating drinking or bathing in it by any convoluted 
>> stretch
>> of your imagination. My comment was simply ridiculing the paranoia 
>> and
>> mythology surrounding the subject as regard to ham use. Industrial
>> pollution or other chemical formulations are not part of the 
>> discussion.
>>
>> However, no responsible study has shown that a casual skin contact 
>> with
>> transformer oil ( generic term covering caps and dummy loads) has 
>> harmed
>> a human. I dont consider Wikipedia as a responsible source of 
>> anything
>> since anyone can edit with their own biases.
>>
>> If my GE Pyranol capacitor started to leak I would toss it out the 
>> same
>> as if a later non PCB cap leaked. But I wouldnt think twice about 
>> using
>> another good one as a replacement.
>>
>> Suggesting that I would intentionally physically hurt anyone on here 
>> is
>> the height of irresponsibility on your part.
>>
>> Carl
>> KM1H
>
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