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Re: [RTTY] Comments by K4SBZ.. (JT65/JT9)

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Subject: Re: [RTTY] Comments by K4SBZ.. (JT65/JT9)
From: "Don Hill AA5AU" <aa5au@bellsouth.net>
Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2014 18:39:39 -0600
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I also run other digital modes such as PSK31, JT65 and JT9. I just recently 
completed 8BWAS (10-80M) all on JT65 and all confirmed
via LoTW. So I've actually been more active on the JT-modes lately than I have 
been on RTTY.

I have no problem with CW stations overrunning the RTTY portion of the 10, 15, 
20, 40 and 80 meter bands during CW contests. If I
want to run RTTY (or any other digital mode) during that time, I will just go 
to the WARC bands. PSK, JT65, JT9 and other digital
mode operators not working the RTTY contest would be wise to do the same thing 
during RTTY (and CW) contests.

That being said, I did notice that there were not as many stations running RTTY 
below 28080, 21080, and 14080 kHz MARK as there have
been in the past. This tells me that more and more RTTY contesters are aware of 
the other digital modes below 14080 kHz and are
respecting those modes. I remember just a year ago when it was not uncommon to 
find signals as low as 14072 kHz on 20 meters. That
is changing.

73, Don AA5AU

-----Original Message-----
From: RTTY [mailto:rtty-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Dave Greig
Sent: Monday, January 06, 2014 4:59 PM
To: pcooper@guernsey.net; RTTY Reflector
Subject: Re: [RTTY] Comments by K4SBZ.. (JT65/JT9)

I personally run many of the Digital modes and have been a long time RTTY 
operator.

But, This is the same argument that we RTTY'er have when there is a CW 
contest.....  By thw way I don't work many CW contest ... not
because I don't know cw but my ears start to ring after a while... I guess it's 
old age creeping in.

End Soap Box...
73' HNY.

Thank You!
Dave Greig N3BUO
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On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 4:13 PM, Phil Cooper <pcooper@guernsey.net> wrote:

> Stan and the group,
>
> I have to disagree with your statement about us being of a limited mindset!
>
> My opinion is that most RTTY users will have tried, and probably use, 
> many of the digital modes going.
> Many of us have tried most of them that have been created, and some 
> have lasted, some have not.
>
> By contrast, many PSK users have NEVER tried anything else, and to an 
> extent, this also applies to users of JT65.
>
> I have worked many of the members of this forum on PSK, JT65, and 
> other exotic modes, (including CW!), as many RTTY ops have been using 
> RTTY since the days of the Creed, and have gradually changed over to 
> computer based RTTY.
> Many, and this incudes me, used various TU's that allowed us to try 
> all of the then-current digital modes such as PacTor, AmTor and RTTY.
> In the 80's, I had QSO's on all of these modes.
> Some of that changed when MMTTY came along, as it was simply so much 
> better at decoding RTTY.
> We are also used to PC's and interfacing, so that is one reason why 
> you will have better QSO match rates on LoTW with RTTY ops.
>
> If you look at the cluster for any length of time, you will see loads 
> of PSK spots marked as RTTY, simply because a lot of these folk simply 
> do not understand the difference.
> I've even seen JT65A marked as RTTY.
>
> My main bug is why the JT65 group are so intent on hammering us RTTY 
> ops during a contest, yet appear so quiet when there is a CW contest on.
>
> HNY all
>
> Phil GU0SUP
>
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