[Skimmertalk] Comment field for skimmer spots with erroneous information?

[Lee Sawkins]

I plead guilty. I was checking incoming non skimmer spots for NPOTA comments and then adding these comments to skimmer spots for the next 12 hours. I have permanently turned this off. Sorry for any problems I caused. 

Lee VE7CC 

----- Original Message -----

From: "David Robbins" <k1ttt at arrl.net> 
To: "Brian Moran" <brianmo at yahoo.com>, skimmertalk at contesting.com 
Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2016 10:36:51 AM 
Subject: Re: [Skimmertalk] Comment field for skimmer spots with erroneous information? 

Try going to ve7cc node and search for spots during that time. or ask ve7cc if he has log files he can search. It could be there is someone who has written something that grabs spots from given calls and adds the comment to ‘help’ them out. 



David Robbins K1TTT 
e-mail: mailto:k1ttt at arrl.net 
web: http://wiki.k1ttt.net <http://wiki.k1ttt.net/> 
AR-Cluster node: 145.69MHz or telnet://k1ttt.net:7373 





From: Brian Moran [mailto:brianmo at yahoo.com] 
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2016 22:41 
To: k1ttt at arrl.net; skimmertalk at contesting.com 
Subject: Re: [Skimmertalk] Comment field for skimmer spots with erroneous information? 



I checked the zipped CSV files from reversebeacon.net -- the comments are not in there. 

However, by the time they were emitted by VE7CC.NET (the packet cluster we were logged in to with N1MM during the contest), we'd see a line SIMILAR to this: 



DX de K1TTT-#: 21060.9 N7PP CW 11 dB 28 WPM CQ NPOTA PK01 2216Z 

(that one is NOT real) 



I didn't have the presence of mind to screenshot it during the contest. Today, sending CQ in the same way we did over the weekend, we cannot reproduce the issue. 



I note that some spots coming out have both the skimmer information and the NCDXF BEACON information. Where is "NCDXF BEACON" text being inserted in the process? 

DX de DF4UE-#: 18110.0 OA4B CW 02 dB 22 WPM NCDXF BEACON 2236Z 
DX de KM3T-#: 18110.0 YV5B CW 14 dB 22 WPM NCDXF BEACON 2236Z 

On Monday, September 19, 2016 3:20 PM, David Robbins <k1ttt at arrl.net> wrote: 



How about some specific examples. I searched my arcluster log for both 9/17 and 9/18 for "npota pk01" and got only one hit with your call on the 18th... and it was not a skimmer spot: 
GB7BAA->DX de KK4KHS: 14287.0 N7PP WA Pierce NPOTA PK01 1905Z 

There was only one other on the 18th that was also not a skimmer spot: 
VE3EY-7->DX de K4BSB: 7217.0 KE4MU NPOTA PK01 Blue Ridge in NC 1901Z 

On the 17th I see a few for k4swl but none are skimmers. 
IK8HJC-6->DX de K8RAT: 14291.0 K4SWL NPOTA PK01 Blue Ridge Parkway/ 1557Z 
IW5ECF-6->DX de K8RAT: 7278.0 K4SWL NPOTA PK01. Blue Ridge Parkway 1625Z 
GB7BAA->DX de WD8RIF: 7278.0 K4SWL NPOTA PK01+TR10 1629Z 
VE3EY-7->DX de K8RAT: 7278.0 K4SWL NPOTA PK01 Blue Ridge + TR10 O 1631Z 


David Robbins K1TTT 
e-mail: mailto:k1ttt at arrl.net 
web: http://wiki.k1ttt.net <http://wiki.k1ttt.net/> 
AR-Cluster node: 145.69MHz or telnet://k1ttt.net:7373 



-----Original Message----- 
From: Skimmertalk [mailto:skimmertalk-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Brian Moran via Skimmertalk 
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2016 21:33 
To: skimmertalk at contesting.com 
Subject: [Skimmertalk] Comment field for skimmer spots with erroneous information? 

Last weekend when operating N7PP in the Salmon Run (Washington QSO Party), we noticed that we were being spotted as NPOTA PK01 in the spots that were originating from the various skimmer nodes. Some callers noticed too, and commented about it in their manual re-spot comments like "NOT NPOTA". I note that some NCDXF Beacon spots say "NCDXF Beaon", but I see that was a feature added to skimmer. 

Our CQ message was "CQ SR N7PP N7PP", or sometimes "CQ WAQP N7PP N7PP", if that matters. 

spots shown on reversebeacon.net don't show the comment field, apparently, or the information is blank. 
spots shown while telnet'ing into ve7cc DOES show the comments field, and NPOTA PK01 was being generated with spots originating from many different skimmers. 
In trying to troubleshoot this, I've read the presentations about "reversebeacon network and me", and examined the aggregator documentation; a couple of the information source mentioned in the documentation appear down now, btw. I haven't had any success figuring out where this information comes from. 

Is the skimmer spot comment information originated in the skimmer configuration files, the aggegator information files, or some other location? 
How does the information get entered? How can one change it? Is there a special format message we can use that will set this information if matched (e.g. a perl-ish regex like CQ (.*) ({CALL}+ ) ) 

Thanks,Brian N9ADG 
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