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Re: [TenTec] In praise of older technology AM transmit with TenTec rigs

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From: "Rick - DJ0IP / NJ0IP" <Rick@DJ0IP.de>
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Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2014 17:10:05 +0100
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Sorry Eric, I disagree with you here.

I can think of no radio I would rather use in a contest than an Eagle.
There's not much I haven't tried... except the latest super high end stuff
(PT-8000 and TS-990).

My goal in a contest is to make as many QSOs, multipliers, and points as I
possibly can.
The more time wasted playing with knobs and watching that tiny TV screen,
the fewer of these three I will make.

And, last I looked, my call sign was still on CQ's web page showing All-Time
Record holders in CQWW DX.
I got onto that list using an OMNI VI+.

Of course now days I have a new goal in contests:  trying to stay awake long
enough to make a decent score!
(hi)
And once again the Eagle helps out.  
When you're tired, the more knobs you need to twist, the more likely you are
to make a mistake.  Once I set up my Eagle before a contest, I don't touch
much except the VFO and RF Gain.  Sometimes I twist the position of my
external preselector.

73 - Rick, DJ0IP
(Nr. Frankfurt am Main)


-----Original Message-----
From: TenTec [mailto:tentec-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of R. Eric
Sluder-W9WLW
Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2014 4:33 PM
To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment
Subject: Re: [TenTec] In praise of older technology AM transmit with TenTec
rigs

Bry:

You won't find a simpler rig to use that rates high on Rob's list for
receiver performance, and that is the Eagle.  It's so simple, that when I
got mine I actually went through "Knob Withdrawal" in that I started second
guessing if I made the right decision.  You look at the radio, and it does
what you want it to do, but has so few buttons or knobs that you ask
yourself, "did I over pay for this box?"  It just goes to show you how
programmed we've become with the marketing hype in Ham Radio.

The Eagle isn't for everyone, but it's a great mobile, or great home based
radio if you realize, it's not designed to be a contest class radio even
though the receiver is contest class grade.  It's a top notch radio inside a
box with simple controls for those who might use it in an RV, or mobile in a
car, and for rag chewers, general ops. IMO


73

 
- R. Eric Sluder 

W9WLW 








>________________________________
> From: Brian Carling <bcarling@cfl.rr.com>
>To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec@contesting.com> 
>Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2014 7:23 AM
>Subject: Re: [TenTec] In praise of older technology AM transmit with TenTec
rigs
> 
>
>The Omni VII discussion is very informative. I need encouragement when it
comes to accepting the ergonomics of most modern rigs. The FT450 felt like I
was burned with its horrible menu system. I actually prefer the FT857D...
But anything like the TS590 is just not going to work here. The OMNI VII
arrangement sounds far more practical than most menu controlled rigs.
>
>Best regards - Bry Carling AF4K
>
>
>
>> On Feb 27, 2014, at 6:31 AM, Richards <jrichards@k8jhr.com> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 2/26/2014 6:13 PM, R. Eric Sluder - W9WLW wrote:
>> 
>> I see where even on the new and highly touted TS-590 you do some serious
button pushing too.
>> 
>> 
>>        I have a TS-590 and the Omni VII in my shack.
>> 
>>        I like both radios, but I prefer operating the
>>        Omni VII.  It is not so much the multiple pressing
>>        of buttons, as the fact the display only shows
>>        one menu item at a time, so you either press
>>        several buttons to adjust several things, or you
>>        must work the multi knob and scroll through like
>>        87 or more items sequentially to get what you want,
>>        which is NOT as quick and easy as looking at a
>>        list of 18 or 19 items at once, and quickly scrolling
>>        to the one you want.   Remembering the menu item
>>        numbers on the 590 is not as easy as just looking
>>        at a menu list and seeing what you want among
>>        the rest all at once.   (hard to describe...hopefully
>>        you get the gist. )
>>        menu item at a time
>> 
>>        I will send Brian a comparison piece I wrote
>>        that compares how stuff gets done with each
>>        rig and maybe that will help him judge for
>>        himself.    It IS a valid inquiry!
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> The single tree menu in the Omni VII software is sweet.... you're not
trying to go thru layers of menu settings.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>        Amen.   The only way to get that sort of
>>        convenience in setting features is to use
>>        the ARCP-590 software.   I really like the
>>        Omni VII simple menu when I am in a hurry
>>        like during a contest or when trying to catch
>>        rare DX before the pile ensues, and I find
>>        the Omni VII menu way easier to navigate in
>>        a hurry like that.  You have to use the ARCP
>>        software to get anything close to a single
>>        menu.   The 590 has like 87 menu items
>>        and the Omni VII about half that number
>>        with 18 or 19 showing at any one time.
>> 
>>        I like both radios, but the Omni is easier to
>>        run, I think, than the 590.
>> 
>> 
>>        The Omni VII buttons are larger, with more space
>>        between them.   The features you change most
>>        encircle the main display.  The concept is easy.
>>        You press the feature you want, and adjust it with
>>        the Multi Knob.  That is the basic plan... select
>>        and adjust.   If you want to adjust another feature,
>>        just select it by pressing its front panel button
>>        and adjust the value with the multi knob.
>> 
>>        Once you get onto that procedure, it all sorta works
>>        the same way.  (OK... there might be an exception
>>        or two, but that is the gist of the process.)
>> 
>> 
>> Just MY take.
>> 
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