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Re: [TenTec] Obsolescence was: Omni 6 Logic Board Failure

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Subject: Re: [TenTec] Obsolescence was: Omni 6 Logic Board Failure
From: "Dr. Gerald N. Johnson" <geraldj@weather.net>
Reply-to: geraldj@weather.net, Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec@contesting.com>
Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 10:40:52 -0600
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On 1/14/2011 9:15 AM, Ray Sills wrote:
Hi Barry:

True... but those boat anchor rigs were designed to be repairable,
under the assumption that you could still get the parts/components to
repair them.  Or, at least find a viable substitute.

But, over time, we hams as customers, have (requested, demanded,
voted with our dollars) new features (DSP, performance, etc.) that
were most economically done using digital and computer techniques.
Could a boat anchor transmitter be set to 1 Hz frequency accuracy?
And maintain that frequency for long periods of time?

Today's radios are much like today's computers:  they are a -
subscription-.  Periodically, we "renew" the account by buying the
latest version.  Any day now, my computer is going to fail.  And, I
won't try to fix it (unless it's something -really- easy and simple
to repair).  I will then get a replacement for it, most likely the
latest version of machine and OS.  Same thing with my car.

The computer makers have always believed in making their hardware obsolete by new products so they can sell new. The latests versions of windoze tend to dislike old working software so they demand new software with new user interfaces which sets us all back a year. While computer drives do wear out, the CPU that appears to fail probably is only a victim of needing its heatsink fins and fan cleaned. The fan packs dust into the fins to the point that no air can flow to cool the CPU which then gets hot and the resistors change value and can't keep up with the clock and it messes up. Its often possible to gain another decade of computer use by cleaning the fans and fins every couple years. And far less expensive than changing to a "new" computer that lacks floppy drives and RS-232 serial ports to connect to existing software and radios.

The computer industry started out 50 years ago leasing computers and regularly updating them. Then the PC came along owned by individuals, more productive from not being shared with a thousand other users and the PC has evolved to be a great deal more powerful than the IBM 360/370 that were staples of commercial computation in the 60s and 70s. The makers still recall those great days of high rents and are trying to get back there by a concept they call cloud computing. In cloud computing you have a fairly dumb computer that rents their software for each time you use it, whether browser, CAD, word processing or whatever, and they get perpetual income rather than one time income. You get perpetual expense and twice yearly you get to have to learn new software that kills your productivity for a week or two each upgrade. And on the dozenth upgrade neglects the feature that you need because they didn't think you needed it.

It might be possible for a company to manufacture a radio that could
be kept operating properly for decades.  But, I bet it would cost -a
lot- of money.  And, most hams will be quite unwilling to spend that
amount of money for such a radio.  We might lament the fact that this
is the case, but it -is- the case so we have to deal with it on those
terms.

Perhaps, some radio company might consider engineering the design of
a radio to future-proof it by finding ways to replace components or
whole circuits with some generic part.  However, unless there is a
demand for that, I doubt it would happen, since it would be an added
cost.  And most companies stay in business by selling new gear, not
by keeping the old stuff running.  Those companies who support the
ham community by offering repair service at economically feasible
rates as long as they can, offer us the comfort of knowing that radio
we buy should serve us well for a good interval of time.  And, that
disposes us toward buying their products.

There are many chips still available from the first logic ICs, but microprocessors from some companies have disappeared probably because they never sold really well.

I was going to look at the Omni VI control board logic, but unless I commit to doing a lot, the dozen or 16 schematics turned me off.

Hams are creative and inventive people, and I also suspect that there
will always be some of us who will enjoy keeping the old clunkers
running, and have much satisfaction in doing so.  It's part of the
hobby!

I'd enjoy creating a new control board, if I could expect to make a living selling it for a few years. I have plenty other projects I want to do for my fun that are easier.

73 de Ray
K2ULR
FN20kg
Warrington, PA



73, Jerry, K0CQ

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