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Re: [TenTec] Eagle Comparison and OT Vintage Rigs

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Subject: Re: [TenTec] Eagle Comparison and OT Vintage Rigs
From: kc9cdt@aol.com
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Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2010 23:44:38 -0500 (EST)
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I have here in the shack several stations.
1) TT Orion II
2) Drake C line with all the Sherwood mods
3) Collins S line (And KWM-2)

I have done some A,B,C testing...nothing with test equipment just using my skills and my ears.

When I come into the shack for a little fun casual operation..I usually use the Collins..love the audio and it just works nice...puts a smile on my face. I think...wow this stuff really still works great! It's 50 years old!

If I want a little better for crowded conditions or weak DX with folks near by...I use the Drake C line. It's very capable.

If it is tough conditions and I am in the mood for high tech. I use te Orion II...lots of neat features and for contesting or crowded conditions it is the best I have. It's a fun radio to use for sure.
Oh, also...if I'm just in a lazy mood I also use the Orion II.

In all honesty..even in crowded conditions, contest or weak DX the Drake will perform about as well as the Orion II...I said about as well. The Orion goes narrower, and the PBT is a little better (The R-4C has pretty good PBT as well) and all the bells and whistles will give it a little edge. The AGC options are better on the OII and the NR can help at times. (on The Drake if you carefully adj. the notch...it does wanders too)

In all my A,B,C testing (and I don't do it all that much) The Drake will hear just about everything the OII does. And just about as well, occationally better. For a serious contester these days...the OII is much faster, agile and has an edge.

After all, If you look at Rob Sherwood's list...The Sherwood modified R-4C is not that far down the page (Was at the top for LONG, LONG time!)!

Of course you actally have to work a little using the tube rigs, tuning, loading, peaking etc.
Most of the time...I rather enjoy it.

If I didn't have the OII, I would get a Eagle.
(PS..now I am in the process of adding a Hallicrafters SX-115/HT-32B and SX-117/HT-44 to the mix)

Oh, I just realized ALL of my equipment in US Made!
AND all of it works excellant!

73,
Lee, KC9CDT



-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Plews <djplews@comcast.net>
To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec@contesting.com>
Sent: Wed, Dec 8, 2010 11:15 pm
Subject: Re: [TenTec] Eagle Comparison


Rick,

Many years ago I had the Viking Navigator and an RME-4350. Truly a nice
outfit in it's day.
My first field day in 1963 I was introduced to the Viking Valiant and a
Drake 2B with Q-multiplier and the old Viking TR Switch.
I was spoiled from the get go I guess.  Sure do miss contesting though.
My Omni C died and purchased an Omni VII. I'm not disappointed except for
my lack of antennas.

73, Dave W9TG...

-----Original Message-----
From: Rick - NJ0IP / DJ0IP
Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2010 9:53 PM
To: 'Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment'
Subject: Re: [TenTec] Eagle Comparison

Stuart,

The Argonaut V's receiver is really not in the class of the other rigs we
have been talking about.
It's great as a QRP radio or casual radio, and especially for camping
vacations, etc., but the receiver has some shortcomings for contesting.
In Europe we couldn't use it without a preselector or lots of attenuation.

The Scout was not a bad radio in its day and I often played with the idea of
getting another one, but the Eagle put that idea to bed forever.  It's a
different price class, but size wise, it's in there with the V and the
Scout.
The Eagle's receiver will hold its own against anything on the market,
whereas the other two are just fun radios.
I would choose the Scout over the Argonaut V for contest because its RX is
better, with its downward conversion.
I would choose the V over the Scout if I just wanted a fun radio for
camping.

As for old rigs, well I'm kinda fond of the Drake 2B with 2BQ Q-Multiplier.
Transmitter wise - I liked the Viking ranger.
I used both many times at other people's shack; never owned either. :-(

73
Rick

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