TenTec
[Top] [All Lists]

Re: [TenTec] installing ladder line

To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [TenTec] installing ladder line
From: Steve Hunt <steve@karinya.net>
Reply-to: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec@contesting.com>
Date: Tue, 09 Nov 2010 19:24:29 +0000
List-post: <mailto:tentec@contesting.com>
Jerry,

I was addressing my comments to your application, which I assumed - maybe wrongly - was a balanced-line-fed multiband doublet.

The balun I referenced is aimed at 160m thru 40m use; but even at the 22MHz low point the choking impedance is still 1,500 Ohms. Note that the chart shows the **common-mode** impedance of the balun - that is not related to the differential impedances seen, so you can't assume anything from that chart about the load seen by a tuner.

In fact, the tuner would see a load little different from that at the end of the balanced line, because the balun itself comprises a *very* short series section of balanced transmission line with a Zo of around 150 Ohms. The ferrite core has NO effect on the TL differential-mode performance.

73,
Steve G3TXQ



On 09/11/2010 18:40, Dr. Gerald N. Johnson wrote:
But Steve, the original post suggesting the balun specifically said 1:4
impedance ratio to transform open line impedances to a better match in
coax where the coax is also far more tolerant to bends and close
proximity to other conducting objects, so the 1:1 may not be all that
suitable.

I notice in the impedance curve of your 1:1 balun there is a series
resonance about 22 MHz where the reactance gets low which is precisely
the condition with a high impedance antenna where a tuner could tune to
the balun, not the antenna.

73, Jerry, K0CQ

On 11/9/2010 4:14 AM, Steve Hunt wrote:
Jerry,

That shouldn't happen with a well-designed 1:1 Guanella Balun, which is
the preferred choice for wide-band, wide-impedance-excusion,
applications. Unlike a  4:1 Guanella balun or 4:1 Ruthroff balun, the
core flux in a 1:1 Guanella balun is not determined directly by the load
impedance / differential-mode voltage.

Here's an example of what I mean by a well designed 1:1 Guanella balun:
http://www.balundesigns.com/servlet/the-98/isolation-choke-balun-common/Detail

73,
Steve G3TXQ


_______________________________________________
TenTec mailing list
TenTec@contesting.com
http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/tentec



<Prev in Thread] Current Thread [Next in Thread>