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Re: [TenTec] re Trees

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Subject: Re: [TenTec] re Trees
From: Robert & Linda McGraw K4TAX <RMcGraw@Blomand.Net>
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Date: Sat, 04 Feb 2006 08:09:30 -0600
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I can factually attest to the fact that foliage on trees will attenuate RF. I can't hear signals off of the moon on 432 when it is below the top of the pine tree just a few yards from my array to the east.

Also, a significant amount of RF can ignite a tree. I lit the top of a maple during a Fall EME contest. The leaves were quite dry and I let the high gain array, fed with lot of power, skew down such that the tree was into the major lobe of the antenna. Quite impressive site. The tree suffered little damage.

As to HF signals, trees will little effect on signals. However, the wire contacting the tree may cause the tuning to change with changing moisture levels due to season of the year or precipitation.

Your mileage may vary.

73
Bob, K4TAX

----- Original Message ----- From: "Rob Atkinson K5UJ" <k5uj@hotmail.com>
To: <tentec@contesting.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2006 7:51 AM
Subject: [TenTec] re Trees


The topic of trees has come up elsewhere (towertalk and a broadcast
reflector i read) and i can say from reading them that the consensus is that
trees attenuate RF if they are in the near field.   this is why mw and sw
broadcasters clear trees off their sites but, it isn't always such a big
problem that you should abandon the idea of putting your vertical dipole
amongst them.   I would be more concerned about pine tree contact with the
high v. end of ur dipole and burning.   Have not experienced this myself
(and being a chicken i hired a guy to trim a pine tree away from part of my loop) and nothing may happen in your case, but if i were you and i ran QRO,
i'd rest easier if I could position the wire so that it's a few feet from
any branches and needles, or if that isn't possible, trim anything making
contact back a few feet.   Some guys say they get around this by using
insulated wire, but I have also read that the insulation can rub off
eventually.

rob / k5uj

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