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Re: [TenTec] Keyers?

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Subject: Re: [TenTec] Keyers?
From: Gary Tuck <gtuck@mac.com>
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Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 13:30:41 -0700
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Ken, this was my thinking as well.

One simple thing is that the 850 keyer speed control seems to only take a tiny bit of adjustment to move several WPM in speed. I've also found myself adding an extra dit here and there. It is still what I understand Mode B to be, but it is different from the Orion in Mode B (which in 1.372 is displayed as Mode A).

A number on the list have mentioned the IdiomPress Logikey K-3. Looks like another one of Bob's products may find its way into the shack.

Gary W7TEA



On Apr 3, 2005, at 12:38 PM, Ken Brown wrote:

Steve wrote:

Gary:
I am sure that any keyer would work with the Orion including your old
Heathkit keyer. The rig has nothing to do with your "struggle".

Steve


Gary wrote:

For years I used an old Heathkit keyer but switched over to the keyer
in the Orion last fall. Now the 850 keyer is a struggle to get right.

Hi Steve and all,

I think what Gary is observing is that every keyer seems to be a bit
different, and once you get used to one, having used it for a long
while, it is difficult to switch to another keyer. I think Gary realizes
that just about any keyer can be hooked up to the Orion or the TS-850
and be made to work. The problem is not whether the keyer "works" but
rather whether the operator can "work the keyer" proficiently. Once you
get used to one keyer it can be hard to switch to another.

I have noticed difficulty switching between the Omni VI internal keyer
and the Logikey K-3. I have them both set to mode B, but they do not
work exactly identically. There seems to be some differences in the
timing of the "window of opportunity" for adding trailing dits or
inserting dits. The difference in operation is very difficult to
analyze, because as soon as you start focusing on it, the problem seems
to either go away or change. This is probably due to minor changes in
timing of the operator's actuation of the paddles.

Does anyone know if there is an "official" definition of exactly what
mode A and mode B iambic keying are? Are there any specific parameters
stated by any keyer manufacturer as to the timing of the paddle inputs
versus the keyer outputs? I have never seen any such specifications, and
I suspect that minor differences between brands is what gives some
people trouble switching from one keyer to another. I find it
interesting that it seems the transition from one model to another can
seem smooth and not even noticable to the operator, and then after
becoming accustomed to the second keyer, switching back to the first one
can be very difficult. What is it that makes it easy to adjust in one
direction and difficult in the other?

To answer your question Gary: I like the Idiom Press Logikeyer K-3 best.

73 DE N6KB


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