JP,
If you are going to quote me, then at least make a good-faith
attempt to get it right.
from my previous post:
"First, the ARRL, when whomever decided unilaterally to treat remote the
 same as just using a keyer, they did so without ANY open discussion with 
the
contesting community. It was simply included DE FACTO.  No notice, no 
discussion, NOTHING that
I ever saw.
Had remote operating been openly discussed by the ARRL at that time, I
 would have formally made my objection TO THE ARRL at that time to REMOTE 
NOT being in it's
own separate REMOTE category.
REMOTE would have it's own NON-Assisted and Assisted categories of
course."
Bob, KQ2M
On 2024-03-17 10:00, JP wrote:
 
NOT according TO KQ2M. AND you KNOW he’s SERIOUS because he’s SAID SO.
I love all the passion over ham radio points.
J.P. W2XX
 On Mar 17, 2024, at 5:19 AM, Hal Offutt 
<hal@japancorporateresearch.com> wrote:
Hold on, guys,
 Please don't lump remote operating with assisted operating.  They are 
totally different animals.  Remote is simply a means to operate a 
station, whether it's in your basement or on the other side of the 
world.  It does not  confer any kind of advantage. Paul Bourque's 
description is perfect: remote is merely a long mic (key) cord.
73, Hal W1NN
 Remoting my station in Ohio from Tokyo since 2011  (and always 
unassisted)
 
On 3/17/2024 3:31 AM, Stewart G. Hoar wrote:
 Paul's "connected" suggestion offers an honest description of 
contesters who choose to increase their fun by adding internet 
support to traditional radio communications.  Some of us enjoy old 
fashioned (pre-internet) contesting, many others enjoy the boost that 
spotting networks, remote operation, and online scoreboards have 
added to our hobby.
 We don't need another category, but I think replacing "assisted" with 
"connected" is a fine idea.
73  Stu  N7ZZ
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 From: CQ-Contest <cq-contest-bounces+stuhoar=msn.com@contesting.com> 
on behalf of Paul O'Kane <pokane@ei5di.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2024 6:59 AM
To: cq-contest@contesting.com <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Assisted or Connected
 It seems to me that the term "Assisted" is outdated, as it predates 
the
internet (remember packet cluster).  In any case, all relevant
 technology assists, leading to never-ending debate about what should, 
or
should not, be regarded as Assisted.
The term "Connnected" describes it better. When you connect to an
external (to your station) network for the purpose of finding,
 facilitating, or making QSOs, you are Connected.  When you spot 
others,
you are Connected - because you are advertising your presence over 
the
internet.  Self-spotting is Connected.
 Remote entrants are Connected because, by definition, they are 
obliged
to connect to an external network.
 If you prefer to enter as Unconnected, then stay away from the 
internet
while contesting.
73,
Paul EI5DI
ps - for completeness and consistency, the use of multi-channel CW
decoders would continue to be regarded as "Connected".
 
  
 
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