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Re: [CQ-Contest] Connected but not assisted

To: Hal Offutt <hal@japancorporateresearch.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Connected but not assisted
From: JP <jp@ezoom.net>
Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2024 08:00:50 -0700
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NOT according TO KQ2M. AND you KNOW he’s SERIOUS because he’s SAID SO. 

I love all the passion over ham radio points. 

J.P. W2XX

> On Mar 17, 2024, at 5:19 AM, Hal Offutt <hal@japancorporateresearch.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> Hold on, guys,
> 
> Please don't lump remote operating with assisted operating.  They are totally 
> different animals.  Remote is simply a means to operate a station, whether 
> it's in your basement or on the other side of the world.  It does not  confer 
> any kind of advantage. Paul Bourque's description is perfect: remote is 
> merely a long mic (key) cord.
> 
> 73, Hal W1NN
> 
> Remoting my station in Ohio from Tokyo since 2011  (and always unassisted)
> 
> 
>> On 3/17/2024 3:31 AM, Stewart G. Hoar wrote:
>> Paul's "connected" suggestion offers an honest description of contesters who 
>> choose to increase their fun by adding internet support to traditional radio 
>> communications.  Some of us enjoy old fashioned (pre-internet) contesting, 
>> many others enjoy the boost that spotting networks, remote operation, and 
>> online scoreboards have added to our hobby.
>> 
>> We don't need another category, but I think replacing "assisted" with 
>> "connected" is a fine idea.
>> 
>> 73  Stu  N7ZZ
>> 
>> ________________________________
>> From: CQ-Contest <cq-contest-bounces+stuhoar=msn.com@contesting.com> on 
>> behalf of Paul O'Kane <pokane@ei5di.com>
>> Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2024 6:59 AM
>> To: cq-contest@contesting.com <cq-contest@contesting.com>
>> Subject: [CQ-Contest] Assisted or Connected
>> 
>> It seems to me that the term "Assisted" is outdated, as it predates the
>> internet (remember packet cluster).  In any case, all relevant
>> technology assists, leading to never-ending debate about what should, or
>> should not, be regarded as Assisted.
>> 
>> The term "Connnected" describes it better. When you connect to an
>> external (to your station) network for the purpose of finding,
>> facilitating, or making QSOs, you are Connected.  When you spot others,
>> you are Connected - because you are advertising your presence over the
>> internet.  Self-spotting is Connected.
>> 
>> Remote entrants are Connected because, by definition, they are obliged
>> to connect to an external network.
>> 
>> If you prefer to enter as Unconnected, then stay away from the internet
>> while contesting.
>> 
>> 73,
>> Paul EI5DI
>> 
>> ps - for completeness and consistency, the use of multi-channel CW
>> decoders would continue to be regarded as "Connected".
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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