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Re: [CQ-Contest] Assisted vs "Unassisted"

To: chris quale <la8om@outlook.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Assisted vs "Unassisted"
From: Chuck Dietz <w5prchuck@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2021 12:28:19 -0500
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I agree with you Chris. 2BSIQ is just SO2R from a rare location.

Chuck W5PR

On Mon, Mar 29, 2021 at 10:59 AM chris quale <la8om@outlook.com> wrote:

> In recent years' CQWW I have used SO2R, with alternating (or dueling) CQ
> in some periods and S&P on second radio in other periods, depending on band
> conditions, stage of contest, etc. When CQing on both radios, if on
> occasion I am lucky to obtain callers/runs on both radios, the pattern
> intuitively turns into what has been classified as 2BSIQ, although not
> facing the pile-up abundance (and challenges) that stations on rare
> locations are blessed with.
>
> I'd merely call it SO2R, where those with never-ending pileups distinguish
> their variant 2BSIQ due to continuous customer access (48 hrs). And hence,
> no need to trigger (dueling) CQs. If no callers, however, even 2BSIQers
> must delve into a dueling CQ or two. Then, at that point, maybe it is
> 'just' SO2R?
>
> My 2¢, 73
> Chris / LA8OM
>
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>
> Fri Mar 19 15:37:59 EDT 2021 Martin, LU5DX lu5dx at lucg.com.ar<mailto:
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> No. That is not how it is setup.
>
> You wouldn't want dueling CQs.
>
> Dueling CQs mean after a CQ has been sent another will start on the
> opposite radio.
>
> CQs on the opposite radio should not be automatically triggered most of the
> time under 2BSIQ.
>
> 73,
>
> Martin, LU5DX
>
> El vie., 19 mar. 2021 2:38 p. m., Jeff Clarke <ku8e at ku8e.com<
> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest>> escribió:
>
> > I've never done 2BSIQ but I think most people who do it setup N1MM
> > Logger as SO2R and alternate CQ's between the two radios like N2IC said.
> > When they are working someone on one radio and copying the exchange they
> > call CQ on the other radio. It's important to have a lockout so you
> > don't transmit two signals at a time because that would break the rules
> > and put you in the Multi-2 category. It's very similar to SO2R with the
> > exception being you are running with two radios on two different bands.
> >
> > Jeff
> >
> > On 3/19/2021 09:51 AM, Steve London wrote:
> > > The N1MM dueling CQ feature has nothing to do with 2BSIQ. It simply
> > > flip-flops CQ's between two radios.
> > >
> > > 73,
> > > Steve, N2IC
> > >
> > > On 03/18/2021 09:55 PM, rjairam at gmail.com<
> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest> wrote:
> > >> Calling it “dueling CQs” like N1MM does it makes it instantly
> > >> understandable.
> > >>
> > >> Ria
> > >> N2RJ
> > >>
> > >> On Thu, Mar 18, 2021 at 10:09 PM Ron Notarius W3WN via CQ-Contest <
> > >> cq-contest at contesting.com<
> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest>> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> In Jim’s defense... I can believe him. I didn’t know what the acronym
> > >>> stood for, either.
> > >>>
> > >>> And, I’d wager that we’re not the only ones.
> > >>>
> > >>> 73, ron w3wn
> > >>>
> > >>>> On Mar 18, 2021, at 6:07 PM, OZ1BII Henning <mail at oz1bii.dk<
> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest>> wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> @K9YC Jim
> > >>>> And you really do not know what the meaning of "2BSIQ" is - or
> > >>>> would you
> > >>>> just point something out !
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Categories and Assisted and SO2R and . . . .
> > >>>> Isn't it all about the way results are presented to the public ?
> > >>>> Why is it so hard to make OVERLAYs and put the results on-line?
> > >>>> I think it is all about sorting the final results.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Take a look of the listings in the SAC Booklet 2020 -
> > >>>>
> > https://www.sactest.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/Booklet-2020.pdf
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> -----------------------------------
> > >>>> * Vy 73 de OZ2I  Henning *
> > >>>> -----------------------------------
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Den tor. 18. mar. 2021 kl. 17.11 skrev Jim Brown <
> > >>> k9yc at audiosystemsgroup.com<
> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest>
> > >>>>> :
> > >>>>
> > >>>>>> On 3/17/2021 2:06 PM, ko7ss--- via CQ-Contest wrote:
> > >>>>>> It seems the top scores in CW contesting from now on will be
> > >>>>>> dominated
> > >>>>> by those ops capable of 2BSIQ.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> What is 2BSIQ?
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> 73, Jim K9YC
>
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