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Re: [CQ-Contest] SSB Phonetics

To: Jorge Diez - CX6VM <cx6vm.jorge@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] SSB Phonetics
From: Jack Parker <vhfplus@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2020 15:45:57 -0500
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My XYL has a particularly difficult call on SSB (K0MKL). When using
properly pronounced standard phonetics the "mike" is often missed and the
"lima" almost as much. She rarely operates phone but we have found the
combination "Mexico, kilowatt, London" is very effective and crosses
linguistic boundaries easily.

Likewise, my call (K0JP) is sometimes a problem with standard phonetics. I
have begun using the combination "Japan, Portugal" and find that, too, is
quite effective.

We are additionally disadvantaged by having a station that is limited to
low power and a low long-wire antenna. That compounds our phonetics issues
and is the reason for our aversion to phone operation.

73,

On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 1:41 PM Jorge Diez - CX6VM <cx6vm.jorge@gmail.com>
wrote:

> just use the right one
>
> no need to invent nothing
>
>
> https://www.buytwowayradios.com/blog/2013/10/the_amateur_radio_phonetic_alphabet.html
>
>
> LetterPhonetic WordPronunciation
> A Alpha *al*-fah
> B Bravo
>
> *brah-voh*
> C Charlie *char*-lee
> D Delta *dell*-tah
> E Echo *eck*-oh
> F Foxtrot *foks*-trot
> G Golf *golf*
> H Hotel hoh-*tell*
> I India *in*-dee-ah
> J Juliet *jew*-lee-*ett*
> K Kilo *kee*-loh
> L Lima *lee*-mah
> M Mike *mike*
> N November noh-*vem*-ber
> O Oscar *oss*-cah
> P Papa pah-*pah*
> Q Quebec keh-*beck*
> R Romeo *row*-me-oh
> S Sierra see-*air*-ah
> T Tango *tang*-go
> U Uniform *you*-nee-form or *oo*-nee-form
> V Victor *vik*-tah
> W Whiskey *wiss*-key
> X Xray *ecks*-ray
> Y Yankee *yang*-key
> Z Zulu *zoo*-loo
>
>
> El mar., 24 mar. 2020 a las 12:46, Yuri (<ve3dz@rigexpert.net>) escribió:
>
> > Gentlemen,
> >
> > I suggest we should create an online poll, where EVERYONY could vote for
> > HIS favorite phonetics, instead of posting it here as individual message.
> >
> > 73  Yuri  VE3DZ
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: CQ-Contest [mailto:cq-contest-bounces+ve3dz=
> > rigexpert.net@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Lyubomir Slavov, OR2F
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2020 1:57 AM
> > To: David Gilbert
> > Cc: Cq-Contest
> > Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] SSB Phonetics
> >
> > Hi David,
> >
> > With all my respect I would suggest to try with:
> >
> > G= George
> > S= Sugar,
> >
> > These are the only replacements I use in my voice robot.
> >
> > 73,
> > Leo / OR2F
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, 24 Mar 2020, 05:28 David Gilbert, <xdavid@cis-broadband.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > I totally agree with Jim, which is why I disagree with W3LPL. There
> > > are some horrible phonetics in the common international listing.  Hard
> > > consonants beat soft ones, short multi-syllable words are better than
> > > single syllable words, long vowel sounds are better than short ones,
> > > and commonly known words with unique sounds are best.  Here are a few
> > > of my hangups on the list:
> > >
> > > Canada is better than Charlie
> > >
> > > Golf is terrible ... probably the worst one on the list.  Guatemala is
> > > better but admittedly long.  Germany is maybe a better compromise.
> > > Too bad more people wouldn't recognize gator
> > >
> > > Italy is better than India
> > >
> > > Japan beats Juliet hands down
> > >
> > > Radio should be better than Romeo
> > >
> > > Sierra is weak ... Santiago is better
> > >
> > > United is much better than Uniform
> > >
> > > Aside from that, I'm always amazed at how many people when asked for a
> > > repeat will keep giving the exact same phonetic over and over again
> > > when it is obvious that they are down in the mud and probably have an
> > > inflection or intonation that makes that particular word hard to
> > > understand.  If somebody is having trouble with Alpha Bravo Seven Echo
> > > I'll switch to America Boston Seven Equador or Able Baker Seven
> > > England or anything else that might help the other guy out.
> > >
> > > 73,
> > > Dave AB7E
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 3/23/2020 5:24 PM, Jim Brown wrote:
> > > > Another VERY important element of phonetics under tough conditions
> > > > is that a hard consonant can be better than a softer one. That's why
> > > > "Canada" sometimes works better than "Charlie," for example.
> > >
> >
> >
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>
> --
> 73,
> Jorge
> CX6VM/CW5W
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-- 
73,

Jack, VE3RUA/K0JP
Shelley, K0MKL
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