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Re: [CQ-Contest] WSJT-X For contests - Dry Run

To: pa5mw@home.nl
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] WSJT-X For contests - Dry Run
From: Maarten van R <pd2r.maarten@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2018 19:11:38 +0200
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Hi Mark,

There was no personal atack, my comments were aimed at negative people in
general.

I didn’t think that to “bitch and moan” would be considered bad mouthing
but after looking it up it’s seems to be in the dictionary as “rude slang
to complain about something”.
My apologies to anyone who felt offended by that remark.

I don’t mind a good discussion, on the contrary, I’m all for it. But it’s
seems that on this reflector there is a lot of negative going on.
Also, a lot of the subjects keep coming back over and over again. This
reflector more often then not makes me think of Statler and Waldorf but
then without it being funny.

But maybe the problem is just me. Perhaps I’m to young for this reflector.
I don’t know.
What I do know is that I’m going to take a break from this reflector. Hope
to catch you on one of the bands!

73, Maarten PD2R


Op do 25 okt. 2018 om 18:43 schreef <pa5mw@home.nl>

> Dave & Maarten,
>
> Will you please refrain from personal attacks and bad mouthing?
>
> Please allow other people to offer an opinion.
>
> Please discuss and allow that sometimes in the end (if there ever is one)
> you do not agree, or the other has the final word.
>
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Mark, PA5MW
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: CQ-Contest <cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com> On Behalf Of Maarten
> van R
> Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2018 3:53 PM
> To: David Gilbert <xdavid@cis-broadband.com>
> Cc: cq-contest@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] WSJT-X For contests - Dry Run
>
> Dave,
>
> I fully agree. It’s too bad that so many focus only on the negatives.
>
> Fortunately it really helps a lot to bitch and moan about our evolving
> hobby on reflectors like this one. Otherwise it would be completely
> pointless, hi.
>
> 73, Maarten PD2R
>
>
> Op do 25 okt. 2018 om 14:10 schreef David Gilbert <
> xdavid@cis-broadband.com>
>
> >
> > What do you care what the data modes are evolving into if you don't
> > use them (even RTTY) and they don't affect the CW and SSB contests
> > that you do use?
> >
> > I don't get it.  Amateur radio is thankfully a lot broader than your
> > definition of it, and for the most part manages to keep the various
> > modes segregated enough to satisfy everyone.   It makes zero sense to
> > bitch about what other people do if they aren't negatively affecting
> > you.  That doesn't make you old, or outdated ... it makes you a bigot.
> >
> > "Bigot: A /bigot/ is a prejudiced person who is intolerant of any
> > opinions differing from their own."
> >
> > Dave   AB7E
> >
> >
> >
> > On 10/23/2018 1:50 PM, Paul O'Kane wrote:
> > > As we move ever closer to fully-automated data modes, the divide
> > > between data and non-data modes gets bigger.  When and if the
> > > operator becomes incidental, what will be the point of such contest
> > > QSOs - other than bragging that my software is smarter than yours?
> > >
> > > WSJT-X may be the "flavour of the month" now - but, next month, or
> > > certainly next year, something "better" will turn up - as the
> > > potential for "new and improved" data modes is limitless.  Some see
> > > this as progress in amateur radio and contesting - I see it as
> > > progress in automated two-way data processing over RF.
> > >
> > > It seems to me that any mode that is not and can not be decoded by
> > > individual contesters (people) in real-time does not truly represent
> > > amateur radio.  But what would  I know, being just an old-fashioned
> > > (outdated?) contester who keeps to phone and CW :-)
> > >
> > > Some will argue that we have to keep up, we can't stop progress, and
> > > that amateur radio and contesting are evolving.  I say that data
> > > modes are evolving into something else entirely.
> > >
> > > 73,
> > > Paul EI5DI
> > >
> >
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