David, AB7E, you are totally wrong about digital modes effecting CW.
This is a big problem on 40 meters during any domestic CW contest. 7040
and 5 khz on either side is unusable during any CW contest because of
FT8 activity. During the NAQP CW and NA Sprint there is usually a RTTY
contest going on that effects below 7040.
From AA5AU's web page :
40 meters – 7025 to 7050 kHz and 7080 to 7100 kHz, during contests
7025-7100 kHz (JA 7030-7100 kHz). (USA stations are also allowed RTTY
between 7100-7125 kHz).
I'm for everyone doing there thing but I've never found digital modes
that challenging from a operating standpoint because no operator skill
is required to copy signals. Your computer does all the work. I've tried
both and became quickly bored with it.
Jeff KU8E
On 10/25/2018 09:12 AM, Yuri Blanarovich wrote:
Who is bigot?
Nobody is arguing or opposing of technology developments and progress
in ham radio.
What the problem is trying to accept the "jet engine powered bicycle
competing with human powered bicycles in Tour de France".
Preserve "classic" categories (Phone, CW, RTTY digital - talking,
Morse code, digital)
Consider keeping real licensed stations with operators present.
Rest, have "Wild" category where anything goes.
Having transgenders beating women is not progress or competition.
Bigot is crap being forced on those trying to maintain sanity in
competition.
Yuri, K3BU
On Thu, Oct 25, 2018 at 04:09 AM, David Gilbert wrote:
>
What do you care what the data modes are evolving into if you don't
use them (even RTTY) and they don't affect the CW and SSB contests
that you do use?
I don't get it. Amateur radio is thankfully a lot broader than your
definition of it, and for the most part manages to keep the various
modes segregated enough to satisfy everyone. It makes zero sense to
bitch about what other people do if they aren't negatively affecting
you. That doesn't make you old, or outdated ... it makes you a bigot.
"Bigot: A /bigot/ is a prejudiced person who is intolerant of any
opinions differing from their own."
Dave AB7E
On 10/23/2018 1:50 PM, Paul O'Kane wrote:
As we move ever closer to fully-automated data modes, the divide
between data and
non-data modes gets bigger. When and if the operator becomes
incidental, what will
be the point of such contest QSOs - other than bragging that my
software is smarter
than yours?
WSJT-X may be the "flavour of the month" now - but, next month, or
certainly next
year, something "better" will turn up - as the potential for "new
and improved" data
modes is limitless. Some see this as progress in amateur radio and
contesting - I see
it as progress in automated two-way data processing over RF.
It seems to me that any mode that is not and can not be decoded by
individual
contesters (people) in real-time does not truly represent amateur
radio. But what
would I know, being just an old-fashioned (outdated?) contester who
keeps to
phone and CW :-)
Some will argue that we have to keep up, we can't stop progress, and
that amateur
radio and contesting are evolving. I say that data modes are
evolving into something
else entirely.
73,
Paul EI5DI
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