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Re: [CQ-Contest] NAQP Revised Rules

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Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] NAQP Revised Rules
From: W0MU Mike Fatchett <w0mu@w0mu.com>
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2016 09:52:59 -0700
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Reclassifying SO using packet to a completely different class make no sense. If you want to remove packet form NA QP I am all for it.

What is the reasoning behind allowing packet in M2? If you want a "clean" boys and their radios contest then dump the packet.

Dumping single ops that chose to run packet into another class when those people dominate the entries is just wrong.

I am still waiting for a reasonable well thought out and reasoned answer why SOA does not exist. Because we did it for 30 years and this is what we did live with it is a poor response. Why are we disenfranchising the majority of the people that are in the wrong M2 class?

SOA with unlimited band changes would be a huge rush and sounds like a ton of fun to me to chase mults all over and having to decide if that is more important than running. To each their own.

M2 entries comprise around 1 to 2 percent of the entries and get their own class. People that comprise about 10 percent of the contest get reclassified.

W0MU




On 12/15/2016 7:50 AM, Jim Stahl via CQ-Contest wrote:
I don’t have much of a dog in this fight, as I personally like classic single 
operator, no assistance operating.

There is one downside in the current rules, however: the 10 minute on a band 
limitation on M2’s severely limits their ability to move and be moved. Since 
the best way to get mults (and a few extra QSOs) is often to move people, this rule 
takes this option out of the game for these stations.

Perhaps the 10 minute rule might be waived for M2 stations with only a single 
operator, i.e. those using spotting?


73  -  Jim  K8MR




On Dec 14, 2016, at 7:28 PM, Mike Smith VE9AA <ve9aa@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote:

de Mike VE9AA

I do contests mostly UNassisted.  I like it this way.  The only ones I
(grundingly) do assisted are the handful of ones, mostly Euro based that
make no distinction between assisted and non. (no sense letting others get
ahead of me needlessly if it's something everyone has access to) Oh, and the
occasional State QSO party (same thing, no distinction)



I like the NAQP just the way it is, as I know ALL single ops are UNassisted
!



For the highest scorers, the NAQP is mostly a central and west coast game,
mostly because of the time of day this starts (so I get a taste of how they
feel in a lot of the other contests (CQWW for example) but I don't let that
dissuade me from playing all the same.  I work my guts out to spin the dial,
use my ears and  make my 100,150 or 200k while the Westerners enjoy the
higher bands open much longer.  At this stage in the solar cycle there will
be no 10m, little or no 15m and very little 20m.



It is what it is, and scores ebb and flow with the solar cycle.  I can look
back to the 90's to see what I've done, always knowing I was finding mults
myself, because that's the way this particular contest is setup.  I don't
enter contests that don't interest me (perhaps due to particulars in the
rules pertaining to mults.)  Most of us know what I am referring to ;-)



Please don't change anything !



Mike VE9AA proudly spinning the VFO in "NB"...CU in the Big Stew this
weekend...also UNassisted...no Assisted SO class in this one either !

N2IC  sez:



Mike, (he's talking to W0MU)





These are the same rules that the NAQP has had since packet hit the radar
screen, almost 30 years ago. Nothing in the rules has changed this year
pertaining to your pet peeves. There were no "decisions" made this year,
just extremely minor tweaks and clarifications. Why the sudden awakening now
? Where have you been hiding ?



Where did you get the wild notion "SOA with 5 times more participants" ?
Name me one significant contest that has 5 times as many SOA participants
than SO participants ?



Glad I'm not in charge of any major contests. Wouldn't want to be accused of
bullying because I won't change a rule that has been in effect for 30 years,
while interest in the contest continues to grow, year-by-year.



You are welcome to participate, or not. You can even take your money where
your opinion is, by not subscribing to the NCJ.

73,

Steve, N2IC




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