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Re: [CQ-Contest] on line scores

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Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] on line scores
From: N1MM <tfwagner@snet.net>
Reply-to: N1MM <tfwagner@snet.net>
Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2013 11:20:52 -0500
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I like posting my score to the scores sites. Why? Because seeing another comparable station there provides incentive to compete. I think there is probably more value there than in the spectator benefit that Rick is looking for.

A lot of people have objected to requiring connection to a scores site, but why not try it in a few smaller contests and see how it affects the competition? Do the participants report staying in the chair longer?

To get to the spectator aspect, I think you would need to do it on a very short contest - maybe 30 minutes to 2 hours long. I was at Dayton last year and watched the CW contest with an electronic scoreboard. The scoreboard made the competition far more interesting than in the pre-electronic era.

A 30 minute Sprint contest with a web site to record every QSO and a video conference room to let the spectators hang out, kibitz and drink a beer while watching the contestants duke it out, might be a lot of fun on a Thursday night. A color commentator who could elaborate on the strategies being used by the competitors would make it even better.

73,
Tom - N1MM

On 11/26/2013 9:55 AM, Rick Dougherty wrote:
Soap Box- I want to commend the teams that took the time to post their
scores
on the cqcontest.ru site. Our friends in UA have dove an excellent job in
making the site easy to use and very accurate. On a different note I will
propose a change to the CQWW Rules to include some sort of rule that if a
station uses skimmer, packet or any other means of gathering information
they
will be obligated to post their scores. Here is a classic example given to
me
by KY4F.

"You and your wife are huge Golf fans, and save, and finally buy tickets
to the Master's Golf Tournament (CQWW CW is much like the Master's). In the
process of your attendance, Tiger Woods and Phil Mickelson decide that they
will not allow their scores to be listed on the leader boards and that they
will keep their score cards in their pocket and not allow any fans or other
competitor to see their score. Their score cards will not be available until
after every participant has finished the Tournament".

I see no discernible difference in the above case, and our current leaders
in
CQWW who refuse to participate in posting their scores online. It is done in
the Golf world to openly and frankly show what the score is at every
stroke. It
is a display of honesty and frankness and is a requirement for entry in any
golf
tournament. I call upon all of the contesting community to request...no
require... that all participants who use any method of information
collection
to post their scores!

As the contesting community has adjusted to the requirement for logs to be
sent
in and posted for all to see, it is now time to change this unnecessary
behavior
and openly post your score for all to see. Not posting your score equals non
entry in the contest.

de Rick NQ4I
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