I agree with the sentiments expressed in this thread. I thought the general
operating 'standard' in this event was really bad (but then I may not be
guiltless either), both from what I would expect from 'contesters', but also
just a general lack of QSO know how from some of the casual guys. It was
actually becoming a 'time and lost waiting QSO partners' issue explaining what
was needed, even for a basic QSO, including 'a signal report would be a good
start....!'
But to Paul, N8HM:
<<I prefer to hear it myself before logging it.>> Surely you MUST hear it
before logging it. Preference suggest a choice, which is the core of the
problem. Surely there is no choice.
<<In fact, is it really a good QSO if you never copy the other station's
callsign?>>.....and so, absolutely NO.
Keith GM4YXI/GM5X
-----Original Message-----
From: cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com
[mailto:cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Paul Stoetzer
Sent: 30 July 2012 13:09
To: Stewart GM4AFF
Cc: Mats Strandberg; cq-contest@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Do I need to operate assisted to figure out the calls?
I was operating assisted, but even so, the cluster often either had the wrong
station or a busted call. I prefer to hear it myself before logging it. In
fact, is it really a good QSO if you never copy the other station's callsign?
I don't think this is going to change until a major contest sponsor puts an ID
requirement in the rules and DQs a big station for violating it, but it needs
to change.
73,
Paul, N8HM
On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 3:48 AM, Stewart GM4AFF <stewart@gm4aff.net> wrote:
> Mats, you have pretty much just said word-for-word what I said in my
> 3830 post! And I don't think we're alone - I know of 2 others who said
> this. As well as the poor operating style, I wonder how so many people
> can call a station who only ID's every 15 QSOs how they know his call.
> It made the 12 hr mixed UNASSISTED section very frustrating. I tuned
> past many stations who didn't ID after 2 or 3 Q's.
> 73
> Stewart
> GM4AFF (GM3F)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com
> [mailto:cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Mats
> Strandberg
> Sent: 29 July 2012 17:43
> To: cq-contest@contesting.com
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] Do I need to operate assisted to figure out the calls?
>
> During the IOTA Contest I realized that some stations have become so
> self-assured that everyone checks the cluster, so the need to ID after
> contacts has become useless.
>
> Come on guys, there are still a few operators around the globe who
> actually want to copy the call themselves and not rely on cluster spots.
>
> Amazingly poor behavior from many stations on the band this weekend!
>
> Do I need to work Assisted next time instead of waiting 12-15 QSO
> before someone ID?
>
> I work acceptably high rates myself but ID at least every second or
> third QSO even if the pile is huge. If just one station was calling
> the last time, I ID after each QSO.
>
> Time to teach some of the newbies how to do it - as well as re-teach
> old guns how we used to do it before the appearance of the cluster?
>
> 73 de RM2D (ex. RA/SM6LRR), Mats
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