Hi Jeff:
QRZ takes way too long to send or say IMHO. Try "Thanks" (or TU on CW)
and, maybe "Roger" (R on CW)if you want a different acknowledgement when
you don't send the call. You can say many callsigns in almost same
amount of time it takes to say "QRZ".
73,
Mark
On 11/9/2011 7:35 AM, Bob Naumann wrote:
> Jeff,
>
> As the method you apply here is one based on your greater than average skill
> set and experience, what would you recommend for someone who is not blessed
> with the same or just starting out?
>
> I don't want anyone to go away from this discussion thinking "N5TJ doesn't
> sign his call every time, so I'm going to start out just saying QRZed and do
> better". There's a lot more behind the technique you apply.
>
> One of the advanced techniques that K5TR mentioned is the copying of several
> callsigns (or partial calls) at one time from a pileup and working each of
> them without signing or saying TU or QRZ. This is an advanced skill that not
> everyone has and this is one case where one would not necessarily sign their
> call between every QSO. This is a huge difference from just not signing your
> call after every QSO as your mission - in this case, your mission is to get
> more stations in your log more quickly and your copying multiple callsigns
> at one time is how you do it - it is NOT enabled by not sending your
> callsign. In other words, not sending your callsign is not the technique
> that leads to any improvement - it is instead the result of these advanced
> techniques.
>
> No one at the top of this game is looking for advice on what to do; it is
> those who are not at the top of the game or might be just getting started I
> am concerned with getting the wrong idea.
>
> For those looking for ways to improve, would you recommend that they call
> one CQ, get a pileup going and just say "Cue Are Zed" at the end of every
> QSO, or would it be better for them (until they develop better skills) to
> just say their callsign at the end of each QSO?
>
> As they gain experience, I would suspect that they could judiciously do
> otherwise, but the point of my questioning this way is to establish the
> principle - not the exception as the rule for those who do not have advanced
> pileup management skills.
>
> Also, we've all heard the unruly pileups that go on seemingly forever
> without the operator signing his callsign. Lately, this has been occurring
> with DXpeditions too and I also think this is very bad technique.
>
> Not sending your callsign after every QSO is the effect that results from
> the cause of applying advanced skills and abilities to pileup management.
> Better efficiency does not result merely from omitting your callsign.
>
> Make sense?
>
> W5OV
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Steinman
> Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2011 5:49 PM
> To: cq-contest@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] BOGUS QSO RATES!
>
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>
>
>
>
>> K5TR wrote:
>> Correct - me too - but not every time.
> Interesting topic and angles. I can confirm that I *do not* send my call
> after each QSO during big hours. When working as many as 8-10 people in a
> minute on SSB there's no time/reason to sign each QSO. Probably once or
> twice each minute and as George wrote the trick is to do it in flow. Of
> those few big hours I have had don't recall getting a lot of requests for my
> call. Probably more requests to "slow down" as just speaking so fast. I'd
> speak faster if I could!
>
> IMHO a more important topic around high rates/good operating is that I will
> CONFIRM each QSO and/or correct your call if needed. It might be "TR,
> thanks" if a correction. And if I have it ok a simple as "thanks" or "VP2E"
> if it's time to give my call. But it will always be something to let you
> know you're in the log, and let the pileup know it's time to call.
>
> 73,
> Jeff N5TJ
>
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