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Re: [CQ-Contest] Frustration this weekend.....

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Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Frustration this weekend.....
From: Jimk8mr@aol.com
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 16:47:56 EST
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I am of the opinion that it is bad form to use non-IDing to thin a pileup. 
 
A much better way is to go back to a caller who is slightly off your  
frequency. Once the crowd, or at least the intelligent part of the crowd,  
figures out that zero beating everyone else in the pileup doesn't work so  
well, 
you'll have thinned out, or at least spread out, the crowd. And with that  
you can hear and work people.
 
Note that sliding a bit off frequency is often a very effective way to  
break a big CW pileup. I used it a lot this weekend (and every other time I 
need  to bust pileups).
 
Limited non-IDing is a perfectly fine way to speed up a pileup. IMHO three  
qsos is the maximum between IDs. I also find it good to ID after a QSO that 
 required a fill, involved a slow/poor operator, etc. The ID serves to get 
the  rhythm back to the run.
 
Some slack in the above may be granted if your call is PJ5/SP6IXF, rather  
than C5A.
 
 
73  -  Jim  K8MR
 
 
 
 
In a message dated 11/30/2010 4:21:16 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
k3mm@verizon.net writes:

I think  its a fairly standard practice NOT to send your call everytime 
when there is a  pileup calling.  It's quicker to send and it thins out the 
herd, making  it easier to copy a call and get the job done.  Another thing I 
like  about it is that it gives the little guy or often rarer DX a better 
chance of  getting thru if he/she sticks in there.  What I will do is ID about 
once  a minute regardless OR if someone sends me a ? or CL?, I'll ID at the 
next TU  or other break in the action.

Of course there are lots of other tricks  to working pileups, but the above 
is one of my favorites and is most  efficient.

I think it is IRRESPONSIBLE for anyone to make the QSO and  then purposely 
not log it without at least giving the other station a chance  to ID for you 
if that's what you personally require.  If you cant do  that, then you 
shouldnt be calling at all until you copy his call.

73,  Ty K3MM

Nov 29, 2010 09:36:16 PM, w2up@comcast.net wrote:

I  usually call the guy, then before giving a report, send CALL? It 
usually  works. Once in a while I'll get a TU. if he logged me, without 
me sending  a report and without me knowing his call, he'll be dinged 3 
QSOs for his  "efficient operating" as there's nothing in my log.
Barry W2UP

On  11/29/2010 5:33 PM, Zack Widup wrote:
> I heard one station sending "5NN  33" but he didn't send his callsign
> in over three minutes, so I passed  him by. Lots of stations to work
> who ARE sending their  calls.
>
> 73, Zack  W9SZ

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