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Re: [CQ-Contest] Rule Change Debate on Skimmer

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Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Rule Change Debate on Skimmer
From: "Richard DiDonna NN3W" <nn3w@cox.net>
Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 20:46:43 -0400
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I think an argument needs to be considered that while technologically within 
reach and feasible, some technological items are best left out of the rules. 
For SO unassisted, I tend to think that Skimmer falls into the "lets not go 
there" department.  Yes its there; yes its a tool; yes your band scope show 
whats happening on the band.  But neither your band scope nor your memory 
keyer nor your SO2R box will tell you that Zone 29 has just fired up 10 KHz 
away.  Skimmer will, and it is not your skills and ability ability that is 
doing it.  It's a computer that is doing it.  Frankly, I think the 
introduction of Skimmer essentially turns CW contesting into slow-speed RTTY 
testing.  You just spin the knob, hit a button, and let the computer do the 
rest.  No CW copying needed.

Is that the way you really want CW contesting to go?

Take another example.  Many teams in the NFL use radio communications to 
facilitate play calls between the head coach, the coaches upstairs, and the 
quarterback out on the field.  It  is a very simple matter for an opposing 
team or for a fan to radiolocate the communications channel and gain access 
to every play call being undertaken by their opposing team.  But does that 
mean it should be allowed?  The NFL doesn't think so.  The technology is 
there to do it,  but allowing to would so fundamentally changes the nature 
of the contest that the League has opted not to provide for it.

So too with Skimmer.

73 Rich NN3W
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Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Rule Change Debate on Skimmer



>
> The difference is only relevant if you
> judge it based on something someone
> wrote in an e-mail instead of what the
> rules actually say.  CQ Rules say:
>
> "The use of DX alerting assistance of
> any kind places the station in the
> Single Operator Assisted category."
>
>

Well, yes, that rule is vague. That's part of the whole debate! And
yours is not the only interpretation.

You can equally well argue that an extra bandscope parked on an empty band
is "DX alerting assistance". It tells you at a glance when another band is 
open
and if a big pileup happens. Would you ban anyone using a bandscope radio?

Yes, you can get the same information by tuning your 3-kHz rig there, but
you can get the same information as skimmer by tuning your 3 kHz rig :)


>
> The ARRL rules which are less clear say:
>
> Multioperator and Single Operator
> Assisted stations may use spotting nets.
>
>
>

"nets" is short for "network". A network implies several amateurs connected
together via packet, internet, telephone, etc., exchanging information. It 
doesn't
say anything about  how you process the radio waves you receive locally.

Tor
N4OGW




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