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Re: [CQ-Contest] SS Rules

To: Russell Hill <rustyhill@earthlink.net>,N7MAL <N7MAL@CITLINK.NET>, cq-contest@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] SS Rules
From: John Geiger <johngeig@yahoo.com>
Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2004 09:39:39 -0800 (PST)
List-post: <mailto:cq-contest@contesting.com>
And does the year you were first licensed refer to any
amateur license, or the year you received your first
US license?

73s John NE0P

--- Russell Hill <rustyhill@earthlink.net> wrote:

> Mal, due to various conflicts, I have not been able
> to play in SS for a long 
> time.  I do plan to before long.  But, following
> this thread, I have a real 
> problem.  I don't know what year I was first
> licensed.  Do you have any 
> advice for me that will not cause me to be DQed if I
> guess wrong and someone 
> is able to find out that my check "should" have been
> the other year?  I 
> suppose I could send 58/59, but that would only
> cause extra confusion, I 
> would think.
> 
> Or are those of us who have changed callsigns over
> the years supposed to use 
> the year we first received our current license?  In
> my case that would mean 
> I would be using 99 for my check rather than 58 or
> 59, and therefore in some 
> circles would mean it would not be nearly as
> "prestigeous" a check.  (That 
> couldn't be an issue here, could it?)
> 
> Original call was kn5ucv.  Maybe you have a more
> sophisticated way to check 
> it out.
> 
> I did try qrz.com as well as a couple of other
> lookups, including the FCC, 
> and could not come up with anything.
> 
> Thanks es 73,
> Rusty, na5tr
> 
> -- Original Message ----- 
> From: "N7MAL" <N7MAL@CITLINK.NET>
> To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 11:50 AM
> Subject: RE: [CQ-Contest] SS Rules
> 
> 
> Kelly here's the fly in your ointment. Contrary to
> popular belief there is
> only one station license assigned. In other words at
> this QTH N7MAL is the
> station license and any and all transmissions from
> this location are
> identified as N7MAL regardless of who is at the mic.
> Therefore the Check
> will
> always be 57 because that is the Check of N7MAL, the
> station licensee. Our
> FCC rules regarding this subject are not ambiguous
> even though, especially
> during contests, they are frequently violated. ARRL
> contest rules do not
> supercede FCC rules.
> Best 73
> 
> MAL               N7MAL
> BULLHEAD CITY, AZ
> http://www.ctaz.com/~suzyq/N7mal.htm
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: Kelly Taylor
> To: N7MAL
> Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 5:24 AM
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] SS Rules
> 
> 
> This rule is hardly without ambiguity. It doesn't
> specify if the person it
> is speaking to is the guy in the chair or the guy
> who owns the station. It's
> further confused by the fact that there's no
> requirement to use the owner's
> callsign (hence the @call listings). That it's
> ambiguous doesn't mean the
> door is wide open, as N1ND's note says. But it does
> mean we can't be
> surprised if checks change.
> 
> My gut on this says that if this is the most
> important complaint about SS,
> people are working way too hard to find things to
> complain about.
> 
> Our responsibility is to interpret and log what was
> sent. It's not our
> responsibility to sweat over whether it's what was
> sent last year. That it
> may change is a good thing. Keeps us on our toes.
> 
> 73, kelly
> ve4xt
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "N7MAL" <N7MAL@CITLINK.NET>
> To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> Sent: Sunday, November 21, 2004 12:23 PM
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] SS Rules
> 
> 
> Sweepstakes rule:
> 4.4. Check (the last two digits of the year you were
> first licensed);
> 
> I worked a station, during ss phone, who I have
> known for many years. The
> station is an above average station and frequently
> has guest ops and even
> multi efforts. When the op sent the check it was 30+
> years off. I didn't
> challenge it because they were doing a serious, very
> serious, effort and I
> was just giving out points.
> 
> My question is: Are the rules really rules or just
> guidelines we can all
> bend and twist to suit our individual purposes?
> 
> 
> 
> MAL               N7MAL
> BULLHEAD CITY, AZ
> http://www.ctaz.com/~suzyq/N7mal.htm
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