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Re: [Yaesu] Humm in the receive audio from FT1000D

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Subject: Re: [Yaesu] Humm in the receive audio from FT1000D
From: "BILL BROWN" <ukbrown@acsol.net>
Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 18:25:44 -0700
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I want to thank all who send such excellent suggestions. Last night I 
grounded everything plus put all 110vt to same outlet and the hmm went away.
PLus I could not the the TS940s to operate in Vox thru the DXD box. Well I 
just hooked up the foot switch so I eliminted that problem sort of. Still 
curious why it wont work. I did get the tech notes from Top Ten and will put 
the mods in later.
Now for the new problem in getting the rigs to key in cw. Hooked it up per 
the Top Ten manual and I am using TRLOG and  nothing..any one got any 
ideas...When I hook up the interface either thru the Com 1 serial port or 
LPT by it self and nothing else No com for the RS232 from the FT1000d or via 
the Piexx board from TS940s  the computer sends cw perfect its when I hook 
up the other stuff and the DXD Box that it just dont work..anyone got any 
idea and does the DXD box have the set inside for the interface. or will I 
have to incorporate that in the DB25 for the computer to the DXD box. thanks 
all PTL bill K0UK
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>   1. Re: Hmmm in the audio from the FT1000D to the DX Doubler
>      (Keith Morehouse)
>   2. Re: Hmmm in the audio from the FT1000D to the DX Doubler
>      (Rob K6RB)
>   3. Re: Hmmm in the audio from the FT1000D to the DX Doubler
>      (David Jordan)
>   4. Re: Hmmm in the audio from the FT1000D to the DX Doubler
>      (Steve Lawrence)
>   5. Re: Hmmm in the audio from the FT1000D to the DX  Doubler
>      (Pete Smith)
>   6. Re: Hmmm in the audio from the FT1000D to the DX  Doubler
>      (Steve Lawrence)
>   7. Re: Hmmm in the audio from the FT1000D to the DX  Doubler
>      (Steve Lawrence)
>   8. Re: Hmmm in the audio from the FT1000D to the DX  Doubler
>      (Gary Smith)
>   9. Re: Hmmm in the audio from the FT1000D to the DX  Doubler
>      (Tyler Stewart)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 12:48:34 -0800 (PST)
> From: Keith Morehouse <w9rm@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [Yaesu] Hmmm in the audio from the FT1000D to the DX
> Doubler
> To: yaesu@contesting.com
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>>Just trying to set up SO2R and having some trouble
>>with humm in the receive audio line from the DX
>>Doubler to the Heil head set.
>
> Bill, I get a little hum in the RX audio when using
> the DXD with a FT1000D and FT1000MPMkV.  It's so
> slight that normal band noise covers it up.
>
> Now, the TX path was a different story - when routing
> mic audio through the computer sound card, I had to
> use isolation transformers to knock down what were
> major amounts hum.
>
> Keith
> W9RM
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 13:04:35 -0800
> From: "Rob K6RB" <k6rb@baymoon.com>
> Subject: Re: [Yaesu] Hmmm in the audio from the FT1000D to the DX
> Doubler
> To: <yaesu@contesting.com>
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> Had the same problem with two FT-1000Ds and a DX Doubler. For some 
> reason -
> never did figure it out - when the two radios are connected to the 
> Doubler,
> there is an inordinate amount of hum in the Heil Pro Set phones. I tried
> tracing the wires, thinking there might be a misplaced ground in the 
> Doubler
> cables, but found nothing. Even with the Doubler off, and the power 
> removed,
> the hum was there. I finally eliminated most of it by buying 1:1 audio
> transformers at Radio Shack, and isolating the audio lines from the D's to
> the Doubler. There is some attenuation of the audio as a result, but the 
> hum
> is now gone for all practical purposes. It is evidently an issue with the
> Yaesu, because I used the Doubler with a D and an IC-751A, and the Icom's
> audio was hum free! Hope that helps.
>
> Rob K6RB
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 16:39:26 -0500
> From: David Jordan <wa3gin@erols.com>
> Subject: Re: [Yaesu] Hmmm in the audio from the FT1000D to the DX
> Doubler
> To: Rob K6RB <k6rb@baymoon.com>
> Cc: yaesu@contesting.com
> Message-ID: <4239F90E.5020504@erols.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> The audio on the Yaesu floats.  If you provide a true ground you'll get
> AC hum.  The transformer provides some isolation. I have an interface
> circuit that will provide
> you a better method to match the inputs and it's simple to construct.
> I'll email you direct with the attachement of the circuit diagram.
>
> Good luck,
> dave
> wa3gin
>
> Rob K6RB wrote:
>
>>Had the same problem with two FT-1000Ds and a DX Doubler. For some 
>>reason -
>>never did figure it out - when the two radios are connected to the 
>>Doubler,
>>there is an inordinate amount of hum in the Heil Pro Set phones. I tried
>>tracing the wires, thinking there might be a misplaced ground in the 
>>Doubler
>>cables, but found nothing. Even with the Doubler off, and the power 
>>removed,
>>the hum was there. I finally eliminated most of it by buying 1:1 audio
>>transformers at Radio Shack, and isolating the audio lines from the D's to
>>the Doubler. There is some attenuation of the audio as a result, but the 
>>hum
>>is now gone for all practical purposes. It is evidently an issue with the
>>Yaesu, because I used the Doubler with a D and an IC-751A, and the Icom's
>>audio was hum free! Hope that helps.
>>
>>Rob K6RB
>>
>>
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> ------------------------------
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> Message: 4
> Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 13:56:59 -0800
> From: Steve Lawrence <SMLX@earthlink.net>
> Subject: Re: [Yaesu] Hmmm in the audio from the FT1000D to the DX
> Doubler
> To: Yaesu List <yaesu@contesting.com>
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> FYI -
>
> I don't have experience with a DX doubler. I use a Griffin iMic
> connected to a Mac USB port. I completely eliminated hum by using mini
> telephone modem 600-600 ohm transformers for DC isolation in both of
> the stereo audio out lines and the Mic input line to an FT1000D.
> Additionally, there has been no problem with signal levels.
>
> 73, Steve WB6RSE
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 17:02:15 -0500
> From: Pete Smith <n4zr@contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [Yaesu] Hmmm in the audio from the FT1000D to the DX
> Doubler
> To: "Rob K6RB" <k6rb@baymoon.com>, <yaesu@contesting.com>
> Message-ID: <6.2.0.14.2.20050317170136.021375d0@mail.adelphia.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
>
> There is also a tech note on the top Ten web site about dealing with hum.
>
> Mouser has inexpensive small audio iso transformers that have less loss
> than Radio Shax.
>
> 73, Pete N4ZR
>
> At 04:04 PM 3/17/2005, Rob K6RB wrote:
>
>>Had the same problem with two FT-1000Ds and a DX Doubler. For some 
>>reason -
>>never did figure it out - when the two radios are connected to the 
>>Doubler,
>>there is an inordinate amount of hum in the Heil Pro Set phones. I tried
>>tracing the wires, thinking there might be a misplaced ground in the 
>>Doubler
>>cables, but found nothing. Even with the Doubler off, and the power 
>>removed,
>>the hum was there. I finally eliminated most of it by buying 1:1 audio
>>transformers at Radio Shack, and isolating the audio lines from the D's to
>>the Doubler. There is some attenuation of the audio as a result, but the 
>>hum
>>is now gone for all practical purposes. It is evidently an issue with the
>>Yaesu, because I used the Doubler with a D and an IC-751A, and the Icom's
>>audio was hum free! Hope that helps.
>>
>>Rob K6RB
>>
>>
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>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 14:18:18 -0800
> From: Steve Lawrence <SMLX@earthlink.net>
> Subject: Re: [Yaesu] Hmmm in the audio from the FT1000D to the DX
> Doubler
> To: Yaesu List <yaesu@contesting.com>
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>
> Here are the mini telephone modem transformers I used:
>
> http://www.allelectronics.com/cgi-bin/category.cgi?
> category=790750&type=store
>
> 73, Steve WB6RSE
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 14:21:44 -0800
> From: Steve Lawrence <SMLX@earthlink.net>
> Subject: Re: [Yaesu] Hmmm in the audio from the FT1000D to the DX
> Doubler
> To: Yaesu List <yaesu@contesting.com>
> Message-ID: <bc4875be00f4098af1b3dfe11a8aa9e1@earthlink.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed
>
> Here are the mini telephone modem transformers I used:
>
> Looks like the link is user connected specific. Try this:
>
> http://www.allelectronics.com/
>
> click on Transformers and then Telephone/Modem Transformers
>
> 73, Steve WB6RSE
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 18:28:35 -0800
> From: "Gary Smith" <wa6fgi@sbcglobal.net>
> Subject: Re: [Yaesu] Hmmm in the audio from the FT1000D to the DX
> Doubler
> To: "Rob K6RB" <k6rb@baymoon.com>, <yaesu@contesting.com>, "Pete
> Smith" <n4zr@contesting.com>
> Message-ID: <004301c52b62$2ff67ec0$a130fea9@datasmit>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> Umm... what is a "DX doubler"? I am in the dark was to what this could be.
> Thanks to all,
> 73,
> Gary... wa6fgi
>
>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>  From: Pete Smith
>  To: Rob K6RB ; yaesu@contesting.com
>  Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2005 2:02 PM
>  Subject: Re: [Yaesu] Hmmm in the audio from the FT1000D to the DX Doubler
>
>
>  There is also a tech note on the top Ten web site about dealing with hum.
>
>  Mouser has inexpensive small audio iso transformers that have less loss
>  than Radio Shax.
>
>  73, Pete N4ZR
>
>  At 04:04 PM 3/17/2005, Rob K6RB wrote:
>
>  >Had the same problem with two FT-1000Ds and a DX Doubler. For some 
> reason -
>  >never did figure it out - when the two radios are connected to the 
> Doubler,
>  >there is an inordinate amount of hum in the Heil Pro Set phones. I tried
>  >tracing the wires, thinking there might be a misplaced ground in the 
> Doubler
>  >cables, but found nothing. Even with the Doubler off, and the power 
> removed,
>  >the hum was there. I finally eliminated most of it by buying 1:1 audio
>  >transformers at Radio Shack, and isolating the audio lines from the D's 
> to
>  >the Doubler. There is some attenuation of the audio as a result, but the 
> hum
>  >is now gone for all practical purposes. It is evidently an issue with 
> the
>  >Yaesu, because I used the Doubler with a D and an IC-751A, and the 
> Icom's
>  >audio was hum free! Hope that helps.
>  >
>  >Rob K6RB
>  >
>  >
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> Message: 9
> Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 11:58:04 -0500
> From: "Tyler Stewart" <k3mm@comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: [Yaesu] Hmmm in the audio from the FT1000D to the DX
> Doubler
> To: "Rob K6RB" <k6rb@baymoon.com>, <yaesu@contesting.com>, "Pete
> Smith" <n4zr@contesting.com>
> Message-ID: <004101c52bdb$a6a17b00$0200a8c0@family>
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>
> They also sell a 600 ohm hybrid transformer that allows you to split your
> mike audio to 2 radios with good impedance matching and frequency 
> response.
> They were a bit large phsically, but about $5 a piece.
>
> Ty K3MM
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Pete Smith" <n4zr@contesting.com>
> To: "Rob K6RB" <k6rb@baymoon.com>; <yaesu@contesting.com>
> Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2005 5:02 PM
> Subject: Re: [Yaesu] Hmmm in the audio from the FT1000D to the DX Doubler
>
>
>> There is also a tech note on the top Ten web site about dealing with hum.
>>
>> Mouser has inexpensive small audio iso transformers that have less loss
>> than Radio Shax.
>>
>> 73, Pete N4ZR
>>
>> At 04:04 PM 3/17/2005, Rob K6RB wrote:
>>
>>>Had the same problem with two FT-1000Ds and a DX Doubler. For some
>>>reason -
>>>never did figure it out - when the two radios are connected to the
>>>Doubler,
>>>there is an inordinate amount of hum in the Heil Pro Set phones. I tried
>>>tracing the wires, thinking there might be a misplaced ground in the
>>>Doubler
>>>cables, but found nothing. Even with the Doubler off, and the power
>>>removed,
>>>the hum was there. I finally eliminated most of it by buying 1:1 audio
>>>transformers at Radio Shack, and isolating the audio lines from the D's 
>>>to
>>>the Doubler. There is some attenuation of the audio as a result, but the
>>>hum
>>>is now gone for all practical purposes. It is evidently an issue with the
>>>Yaesu, because I used the Doubler with a D and an IC-751A, and the Icom's
>>>audio was hum free! Hope that helps.
>>>
>>>Rob K6RB
>>>
>>>
>>>_______________________________________________
>>>Yaesu mailing list
>>>Yaesu@contesting.com
>>>http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/yaesu
>>
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