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Re: [WriteLog] Error Message when Writelog 10.77H is started up

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Subject: Re: [WriteLog] Error Message when Writelog 10.77H is started up
From: "Jim McDonald" <jim@n7us.net>
Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2010 13:09:38 -0500
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I fixed the UAC problem by removing the compatibility settings I had for
MMTTY, which is installed in the C:\Ham\MMTTY folder.  MMTTY now runs fine
standalone without the UAC screen of Windows 7.

Now I get the UserPara.INI error and Rttyrite hangs with an Initialing MMTTY
message.  I don't think the MMTTY plug-in is working with my Windows
7/64-bit.

Jim N7US


-----Original Message-----

Don,

That was a good suggestion, starting with no writelog.ini and creating a new
one, but it still didn't work.  I'd guess it's a Windows 7/74-bit issue and
User Access Control, which is activated when I run MMTTY standalone.

The portion of writelog.ini is now:

[Rttyrite]
Port=0
Speed=0
Type=15
MMTTY_LOCATION=C:\Ham\MMTTY\
MMTTY_USE_MENUS=1
MMTTY_USE_BUTTONS=1
MMTTY_ALWAYS_ON_TOP=1
MMTTY_USE_PROFILE=1
MMTTY_CQAFC=1
MMTTY_CQNET=0
MMTTY_SPAFC=1
MMTTY_SPNET=1
MMTTY_AUTOAFC=1
X=1379
Y=415
W=729
H=380

I was still getting the error message when selecting the path for the full
installation of MMTTY (in C:\Ham\MMTTY) that it can't start MMTTY because it
requires elevation.

I uninstalled MMTTY and reinstalled it and now get the error message when
selecting MMTTY that "Failed to create custom TNC handler:
WriteLog.WlMMTtyTnc.1.


Jim N7US



-----Original Message-----

Apparently something has changed in 10.77 where the following [Rttyrite]
entries are no longer needed:

CustomTnc1MenuEntry=MMTTY
CustomTnc1ProgId=WriteLog.WlMMTtyTnc.1

On clean full installs of 10.77, writelog.ini files on both my PC's show
this:

[Rttyrite]
Port=4
Speed=0
Type=15
MMTTY_LOCATION=C:\Program Files\MMTTY\
X=434
Y=298
W=670
H=468
Font=IOPPPPPPAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMLCAAAAAAAAAAAAADACABABDDEPGFHCHJGFGCHA
COEFGHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

It's obviously different than what was used to be required.  Try removing
the CustomTnc command lines in writelog.ini or you might
try renaming your existing writelog.ini file to something like
writelog_old.ini and let WriteLog create a new one.  When you select
MMTTY as the TU Type, you will get an error that says it can't find MMTTY
but you will be able to navigate to the location of MMTTY.
Make sure you have a FULL installation of MMTTY and not just mmtty.exe in
the location.

73, Don AA5AU
http://www.aa5au.com
http://www.rttycontesting.com 

-----Original Message-----
From: rtty-bounces@contesting.com [mailto:rtty-bounces@contesting.com] On
Behalf Of John Merrill
Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2010 5:03 PM
To: RTTY Contesting
Subject: Re: [RTTY] [WriteLog] Error Message when Writelog 10.77H is
startedup

Look at the writelog.in file under
C:\Users\yourname\AppData\Local\VirtualStore\Windows and see if this is
there:

[rttyrite]

CustomTnc1MenuEntry=MMTTY
CustomTnc1ProgId=WriteLog.WlMMTtyTnc.1
Type=15
MMTTY_LOCATION=??????????



Are you sure it is under c:\ham\mmtty and not c:\users\yourname.......  ?




On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 2:36 PM, Jim McDonald <jim@n7us.net> wrote:

> When I try to select MMTTY as the TU type I get an error dialog box:
>
> MmTtyTnc:
> Can't start MMTTY!
> The requested operation requires elevation.
>
> I click OK, and it brings up the box to select the MMTTY folder.  When 
> I specify C:\Ham\MMTTY I get the same error message and have to close 
> the Rttyrite window.
>
> Jim N7US
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> I've had some discussion with AA6YQ who is currently maintaining MMTTY 
> concerning userpara.ini.  Dave confirms my understanding that 
> userpara.ini is opened from the MMTTY program directory.
>
> Remember MMTTY is not UAC aware - having been written long before 
> either Vista or Windows 7.  However, by default MMTTY is installed in 
> c:\Program Files(x86) which is a "protected directory" in both Vista 
> and Windows 7.  User applications are not permitted to write to 
> "protected directories" and this may cause a problem with both 
> userpara.ini and mmtty,ini.
>
> The suggestions are:
>
>   1) do a fresh installation of MMTTY in a directory other than
>      c:\Program Files(x86) ... try c:\MMTTY or c:\Ham Programs\MMTTY
>
>   2) Mark MMTTY.exe "Run this program as and an administrator"
>       a) Navigate to C:\Program Files(x86)\MMTTY\MMTTY.exe
>       b) right click on MMTTY.exe
>       c) Select "Properties"
>       d) select the "compatibility" tab
>       e) check "Run this program as an administrator" in the
>          Privilege Level box
>
> I have never seen the "userpara.ini" error but all of my ham programs 
> are installed in a separate directory tree on a separate hard drive:
> (d:\Ham Programs\<application>).
>
> 73,
>
>    ... Joe, W4TV
>
> On 7/9/2010 7:34 PM, Don Hill AA5AU wrote:
> > Nothing I have done has been able to get rid of the USERPARA.INI 
> > error on startup of the MMTTY when selected as TU in WriteLog.  I 
> > mentioned in my previous post that the error does not occur directly 
> > after a reboot.  But I've also found that directly after a reboot, 
> > the first time I run WriteLog, my soundcard is either "deaf" or 
> > "dead" - no audio apparently getting through it to show up in the 
> > MMTTY display.  Closing Rttyrite and reopening Rttyrite (or 
> > WriteLog) causes the soundboard to start working again.  This 
> > happens on both the internal sound card to the PC and the Codec 
> > soundcard in the IC-7600.
> >
> > I've decided not to spend any more time on it right now unless I can 
> > think of something different to do.  But complete full installations 
> > of WriteLog, MMTTY and the MMTTY plug-in didn't solve the problem.
> >
> > 73, Don AA5AU
>  > http://www.aa5au.com
>  > http://www.rttycontesting.com


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