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Re: [WriteLog] Requested 3 Enter key sequence for RTTY in WL

To: Jim Rhodes <k0xu@iowadsl.net>, writelog@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [WriteLog] Requested 3 Enter key sequence for RTTY in WL
From: Jerry Pixton <jpixton@shentel.net>
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 11:21:15 +0000
List-post: <mailto:writelog@contesting.com>
Jim, et al

Yes, I use Fkeys about 90% of the time. But I find having other 
"convenient" keys mapped to the response sequence restful to the fingers.

I have been pointing out for a long time that the rtty behaviour for the 
"Enter" function was broken because the cursor moves to the next field when 
you mouse click a call.

However, I think there may be a "sand trap" here. What is being asked is 
"Don't move to the next field after entering a call using the left mouse 
button". This means when you next click on the report, the cursor is still 
in the call field and you garbage the call with a report.

Think about this before too much noise is made.

Jerry, W6IHG

At 07:39 PM 4/11/2006 -0500, Jim Rhodes wrote:
>I guess I have just been spoiled by FKeys. I don't remember the last time I
>even had a keyboard on the desk for a RTTY test. Thank You Keith!!!!!
>
>
>
>At 11:40 AM 4/11/2006, Richard Zalewski wrote:
> >I can't believe that in five days since you made your post on this
> >proposed fix that there have been no comments from either Ron or any
> >users.  I hope this one just does not get ignored.
> >
> >Dick W7ZR
> >
> >On 4/5/06, James Sullivan <jims@psws.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > I was not available to comment on the recent ESM postings.
> > > All of the ESM comments, I read, did not address the functionality I 
> want.
> > >
> > > I would like to use the 'Enter sends exch/QRZ' mode, under WL Entry
> > menu, in
> > > order to use the 3 Enter key sequence for making QSOs on RTTY.
> > > This mode works great for phone or CW.
> > >
> > > My goal is NOT to be able to hit the ENTER keyboard key 3 times for a Q.
> > > If you have a Microsoft Intellipoint Mouse you can install the latest
> > > drivers(5.2 or greater)to increase WL functionality. These drivers 
> let you
> > > map any mouse button to any key closure (including F keys).
> > > My methods maps the Mouse Wheel switch to the ENTER key.
> > > In RTTY contests this could allow me to Mouse the entire QSO, when 
> running,
> > > with just the Left mouse button and the center Mouse wheel switch.
> > > The sequence is:
> > >        ENTER for calling CQ
> > >        LEFT mouse for grabbing Callsign
> > >        ENTER for sending TX exchange
> > >        LEFT mouse for grabbing received Rx exchange
> > >        ENTER to Log QSO and send QRZ. (no Insert keys...)
> > > Added benefits to the new mouse driver include using all 5 buttons to 
> also
> > > support S&P mode.
> > > In addition you can map the mouse buttons special functionality just
> > for WL.
> > > When you are not using WL the button mappings default back to normal
> > > operation on your PC.
> > >
> > > As pointed out in previous discussions the 3 ENTER key sequence in 
> RTTY is
> > > broken
> > > There is a very simple reason why it is broke in RTTY.
> > >
> > > For some reason WL moves the entry cursor to the first '9' in the RS
> > field's
> > > default 599 after you select a callsign with the LEFT mouse button.
> > > I suppose this allows you to reach up and hit an 8 key if your report is
> > > 589.
> > > In RTTY contest almost all reports are 599.
> > > If someone actually gives you a 589, you cannot LEFT mouse on the
> > report and
> > > have it put the report in the RS field. You have to strike the 8 key.
> > > This seems like some sort of broken paradigm to me.
> > > I think this auto move to the RS field functionality would not be 
> missed if
> > > deleted.
> > > This auto cursor move is not compatible with the 'Enter sends exch/QRZ'
> > mode
> > > because this mode assumes the next ENTER key should log the QSO 
> instead of
> > > sending the TX exchange.
> > >
> > > If the cursor would NOT auto move to the RS field, the 3 ENTER key
> > > sequencing would work.
> > > After selecting the callsign with the LEFT mouse button the cursor
> > should be
> > > left in the CALL field to allow the next ENTER to send the TX exchange.
> > >
> > > My Fix is for WL to allow a user to turn OFF this auto cursor RS movement
> > > after a call is clicked-on via a user optional entry in the WL 
> [ENTRY] ini
> > > section.
> > >
> > > I have asked the WL people for this simple change, but have received NO
> > > response.
> > > I see some RTTY changes in the latest beta but not the one I requested.
> > >
> > > Jim W7EJ CN2R
> > >
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> >
> >--
> >Tnx es 73
> >Dick W7ZR
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>Jim Rhodes K0XU
>jim@rhodesend.net
>
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