Hi Dave
Thanks… yes, I’ve done that and even use FRStack to do that as well, which can
bring me back to a known freq, but not necessarily the last freq I was on when
I pounce and run bands with someone. Or did I miss something here ?
Thanks, KH
> On Jan 16, 2023, at 1:58 PM, David DeVos via VHFcontesting
> <vhfcontesting@contesting.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Kevin - I contest with the Flex 6400M with a Q5 transverter driven by the
> transverter port on the radio. I set up memories for the transverter bands.
> I just select a memory to changes bands. The memories store all the settings
> including modes.
> Dave DeVos - KF8QL/R
> 616-278-8068 - mobile
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> 1. Re: IF Radios & XTRs (Ed Kucharski)
> 2. Re: IF Radios & XTRs (Terry Price)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2023 11:33:22 -0500 (EST)
> From: Ed Kucharski <k3dne@comcast.net>
> To: "vhfcontesting@contesting.com" <vhfcontesting@contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [VHFcontesting] IF Radios & XTRs
> Message-ID: <898011657.847244.1673886802100@connect.xfinity.com>
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> I have nothing to really add to this thread other than to vent my
> frustration. Kevin alluded to it with his criticism of the Flex and xvtrs.
> I'm particularly disappointed with Yaesu and their "flagship" radio (FTDX101D
> / MP). No configuration or low level output for transverter interfacing. I
> knew that before purchasing the radio and planned to continue to use my
> FT1000MP MKV as an IF but the '101 has many nice features I'd like to have
> when using it with transverters for 2m and up. A significant oversight by
> Yaesu IMHO.
> 73,
> Ed K3DNE
>
>> On 01/16/2023 11:24 AM Kevin Hobbs via VHFcontesting
>> <vhfcontesting@contesting.com mailto:vhfcontesting@contesting.com > wrote:
>>
>>
>> Thanks Terry ... that's what I figured ... I assume if the K3 does that
>> then
>> K4 probably follows the same architecture. Seems like just another VHF+ /
>> XVTR oversight by Flex Radio. 73 KH
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Terry Price <terry@directivesystems.com
>> mailto:terry@directivesystems.com >
>> Sent: January 16, 2023 10:40 AM
>> To: 'Kevin Hobbs' <ve3kh@icloud.com mailto:ve3kh@icloud.com >
>> Cc: 'VHF Contesting Reflector' <vhfcontesting@contesting.com
>> mailto:vhfcontesting@contesting.com >
>> Subject: RE: [VHFcontesting] IF Radios & XTRs
>>
>> Hi Kevin,
>>
>> Don't know about the K4 but I have four K3's and they remember every VHF
>> band so when I QSY say to 222.100 and then to another band, when I come
>> back
>> to 222, it is on 222.100 and the same mode. The K3 supports 10 VHF bands
>> so
>> one radio can do 50 MHz (native) through 10GHz and the dial shows the
>> correct frequency. Each band can have a frequency correction of +/- 5 KHz
>> (maybe 10 I can't remember) and the band data is standard BCD that is
>> also
>> mirrored for HF. There is a separate control line that goes low when low
>> power transverter mode is selected so you can differentiate between HF
>> and
>> VHF and there is a PTT output, all of these signals are available at the
>> HD15 acc connector on the back. So you can cover 160m through 10 GHz all
>> automatically with the right BCD decoder setup. If you get one with the
>> internal 2m transverter, it can be set up to cover bands from 902 and up
>> as
>> an I.F.
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> Terry - W8ZN
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: VHFcontesting
>> [mailto:vhfcontesting-bounces+terry=directivesystems.com@contesting.com
>> mailto:vhfcontesting-bounces+terry=directivesystems.com@contesting.com ] On
>> Behalf Of Kevin Hobbs via VHFcontesting
>> Sent: Monday, January 16, 2023 10:30 AM
>> To: VHF Contesting <vhfcontesting@contesting.com
>> mailto:vhfcontesting@contesting.com >
>> Subject: [VHFcontesting] IF Radios & XTRs
>>
>> Hi
>>
>>
>>
>> I have a Flex 6600M and a number of XVTRs connected to its XVTRA RXA
>> ports
>> with external switching controlled via the Flex IO USB
>>
>> * 8 CH Relays to control DPDT coax switch to select between a Kuhne
>> 144 XVTR (which is the IF for 10 24 47 GHz XVTRs) and a Q5 5-Band XVTR
>>
>>
>>
>> My issue is that when I change VHF+ bands via the Flex, it resets my
>> freq,
>> panadapter etc to default settings and so I can switch back to where I
>> was
>> when running the bands because the Flex thinks it all 28MHz and even
>> though
>> it handles all the XVTR's it doesn't have any band memory / persistence
>> for
>> XVTRs. This makes running the bands and going back and forth to
>> coordinate a
>> feal nuisance.
>>
>>
>>
>> Does anyone have a workaround or know if some other HF IF rigs handle
>> this
>> better ie: K3 or K4 ???
>>
>>
>>
>> 73 Kevin VE3KH
>>
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2023 11:58:21 -0500
> From: "Terry Price" <terry@directivesystems.com>
> To: "'Ed Kucharski'" <k3dne@comcast.net>,
> <vhfcontesting@contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [VHFcontesting] IF Radios & XTRs
> Message-ID: <90c701d929cb$bd7d0f90$38772eb0$@directivesystems.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> Ed et all,
>
> I think the entire reason the K3 works so well and fits so many niches is
> Elecraft listened. Both Wayne and Eric answered questions and suggestions
> directly from their reflector. The closest any of the Japanese companies
> ever came was the good old Yaesu Ft736R and maybe some of the ICOMs. But
> just look at the IC-9700, ICOMs latest VHF rig, if doesn't even offer per
> band PTT output for individual amps and no band data unless you want to roll
> your own using an Arduino watching the CI-V. Yes I realize they are making
> radios for worldwide consumption but I would this everyone would like this.
> I'm anxiously awaiting the new IC-905 to see how bad they butchered it. I
> have a IC-705 and it has a single PTT output, no band data for steering the
> PTT and no CI-V jack. And, don't even get me started about 222 and 902 !!
>
> Unfortunately, we as VHF weak signal folks are such a minority that no one
> will listen. They, like the ARRL, only cares about "shack on the belt" types
> and HF. Flex is an American company (I think) and being a true SDR, one
> would think it could walk on water and leave tracks but only if the software
> engineers make it. One of our operators at K8GP/W8ZN has a Flex 6XXX and
> after watching the amount of work it takes him to set it up and get it to
> work, I'll keep my K3's until they put me in a pine box!
>
> Terry
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: VHFcontesting
> [mailto:vhfcontesting-bounces+terry=directivesystems.com@contesting.com] On
> Behalf Of Ed Kucharski
> Sent: Monday, January 16, 2023 11:33 AM
> To: vhfcontesting@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [VHFcontesting] IF Radios & XTRs
>
> I have nothing to really add to this thread other than to vent my
> frustration. Kevin alluded to it with his criticism of the Flex and xvtrs.
> I'm particularly disappointed with Yaesu and their "flagship" radio
> (FTDX101D / MP). No configuration or low level output for transverter
> interfacing. I knew that before purchasing the radio and planned to continue
> to use my FT1000MP MKV as an IF but the '101 has many nice features I'd like
> to have when using it with transverters for 2m and up. A significant
> oversight by Yaesu IMHO.
> 73,
> Ed K3DNE
>
>>> On 01/16/2023 11:24 AM Kevin Hobbs via VHFcontesting
>> <vhfcontesting@contesting.com mailto:vhfcontesting@contesting.com > wrote:
>>
>>
>> Thanks Terry ... that's what I figured ... I assume if the K3 does
> that then
>> K4 probably follows the same architecture. Seems like just another
> VHF+ /
>> XVTR oversight by Flex Radio. 73 KH
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Terry Price <terry@directivesystems.com
> mailto:terry@directivesystems.com >
>> Sent: January 16, 2023 10:40 AM
>> To: 'Kevin Hobbs' <ve3kh@icloud.com mailto:ve3kh@icloud.com >
>> Cc: 'VHF Contesting Reflector' <vhfcontesting@contesting.com
> mailto:vhfcontesting@contesting.com >
>> Subject: RE: [VHFcontesting] IF Radios & XTRs
>>
>> Hi Kevin,
>>
>> Don't know about the K4 but I have four K3's and they remember every
> VHF
>> band so when I QSY say to 222.100 and then to another band, when I
> come back
>> to 222, it is on 222.100 and the same mode. The K3 supports 10 VHF
> bands so
>> one radio can do 50 MHz (native) through 10GHz and the dial shows the
>> correct frequency. Each band can have a frequency correction of +/- 5
> KHz
>> (maybe 10 I can't remember) and the band data is standard BCD that is
> also
>> mirrored for HF. There is a separate control line that goes low when
> low
>> power transverter mode is selected so you can differentiate between HF
> and
>> VHF and there is a PTT output, all of these signals are available at
> the
>> HD15 acc connector on the back. So you can cover 160m through 10 GHz
> all
>> automatically with the right BCD decoder setup. If you get one with
> the
>> internal 2m transverter, it can be set up to cover bands from 902 and
> up as
>> an I.F.
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> Terry - W8ZN
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: VHFcontesting
>>
> [mailto:vhfcontesting-bounces+terry=directivesystems.com@contesting.com
> mailto:vhfcontesting-bounces+terry=directivesystems.com@contesting.com ] On
>> Behalf Of Kevin Hobbs via VHFcontesting
>> Sent: Monday, January 16, 2023 10:30 AM
>> To: VHF Contesting <vhfcontesting@contesting.com
> mailto:vhfcontesting@contesting.com >
>> Subject: [VHFcontesting] IF Radios & XTRs
>>
>> Hi
>>
>>
>>
>> I have a Flex 6600M and a number of XVTRs connected to its XVTRA RXA
> ports
>> with external switching controlled via the Flex IO USB
>>
>> * 8 CH Relays to control DPDT coax switch to select between a Kuhne
>> 144 XVTR (which is the IF for 10 24 47 GHz XVTRs) and a Q5 5-Band XVTR
>>
>>
>>
>> My issue is that when I change VHF+ bands via the Flex, it resets my
> freq,
>> panadapter etc to default settings and so I can switch back to where I
> was
>> when running the bands because the Flex thinks it all 28MHz and even
> though
>> it handles all the XVTR's it doesn't have any band memory /
> persistence for
>> XVTRs. This makes running the bands and going back and forth to
> coordinate a
>> feal nuisance.
>>
>>
>>
>> Does anyone have a workaround or know if some other HF IF rigs handle
> this
>> better ie: K3 or K4 ???
>>
>>
>>
>> 73 Kevin VE3KH
>>
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