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Re: [VHFcontesting] ARRL/CAC: VHF Contest Proposal(s)

To: Zack Widup <w9sz.zack@gmail.com>, jimk8mr@aol.com
Subject: Re: [VHFcontesting] ARRL/CAC: VHF Contest Proposal(s)
From: "Bob, W3IDT" <w3idt@comcast.net>
Reply-to: w3idt@comcast.net
Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2021 15:46:56 -0400
List-post: <mailto:vhfcontesting@contesting.com>
Zack,

I also have a problem with separate CW and voice QSO's per band.

Proposed separate ONLY on 6m and 2m.
Single mixed/analog on other bands.

That essentially gives me one mode to work with most of the time.

So I guess you don't carry computer / digital gear.
I carefully didn't address potential changes for Rovers and Portable stations. I know there are some issues there, too.
Oversight. I should have said so.

Bob, w3idt
.......
. Robert F. Teitel, W3IDT
.
. w3idt@comcast.net
. w3idt@arrl.net
........

On 9/27/2021 3:08 PM, Zack Widup wrote:
I also have a problem with separate CW and voice QSO's per band. I am usually a QRP Portable in ARRL VHF contests. I can very often get through on CW but NOT on SSB. That essentially gives me one mode to work with most of the time.

73, Zack W9SZ

On Mon, Sep 27, 2021 at 1:54 PM jimk8mr--- via VHFcontesting <vhfcontesting@contesting.com <mailto:vhfcontesting@contesting.com>> wrote:

    I will file comments with the CAC, but my suggestion is a variation
    of #3: two contacts per band (analog & digital) but also having two
    multipliers per grid square per band, i.e. one for analog and one
    for digital. Keep it simpler by having equal QSO point values for
    digital and analog QSOs, while rewarding DX QSOs on analog modes for
    those people also operating digital modes.

    I find a problem with having separate CW and Voice QSOs, as I have
    had many cross mode QSOs over the years. Those would be difficult
    and/or confusing to score.

    73  -  Jim   K8MR



    -----Original Message-----
    From: Bob, W3IDT <w3idt@comcast.net <mailto:w3idt@comcast.net>>

    Sent: Mon, Sep 27, 2021 2:05 pm
    Subject: ARRL/CAC: VHF Contest Proposal(s)

    All,

    You are receiving this email via the VHF Contesting Reflector (or PVRC
    Reflector), or because you received and perhaps commented on my VHF
    Contest proposal / discussion document of 18 months ago which gathered
    much interest and email traffic both direct to me and via various
    reflectors.

    A "let's wait and see what happens" attitude seemed persuasive at that
    time. Well, we've waited and we’ve seen: VHF contests have now evolved
    into mostly 50- and 144-MHz FT8 contests with very little SSB/CW
    activity nor much activity on the higher bands.

    The ARRL/Contest Advisory Committee (CAC) is aware of the issues and is
    considering various options to rejuvenate VHF contests. They are
    interested in "thoughtful ideas and proposals".

    Please DO NOT send COMPLAINTS about the loss of the "good old times",
    and please DO NOT send RANTS about whatever bothers you now about VHF
    contesting.

    As stated above, the ARRL/CAC  IS  aware of the issues.
    They are interested in good and thoughtful ideas.

    Send any submission to your CAC representative; a listing of CAC
    members
    is below the signature block. I would be interested in receiving a copy
    of any submissions.

    Attached in PDF format, and in plain text below the CAC members list
    (losing some bold, italic, and underline formatting), is the proposal I
    sent to the CAC.

    The CAC is interested in similar (style, format, tone, etc) ideas,
    not necessarily the substantive content of my proposal.

    PLEASE DISTRIBUTE THIS EMAIL WIDELY.
    The ARRL/CAC will appreciate "thoughtful ideas and proposals".

    Bob, w3idt
    6m op at W3SO, Wopsononock Mountaintop Operators
-- .......
    . Robert F. Teitel, W3IDT
    .
    . w3idt@comcast.net <mailto:w3idt@comcast.net>
    . w3idt@arrl.net <mailto:w3idt@arrl.net>

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