The problem with FT8 as it is currently used is not just about speed of qsos
either- having ALL FT8 (or JT65) activity piled on one 2.7 KHz channel makes it
much harder to work weak signals. Because of that it is not necessarily true
that FT8 "makes the distant contacts and large number of multipliers much
easier."
For example, from here (EM53) when 6m is open to Europe, it is also open to the
east coast (single hop Es) with 599+++ signals. It has been much easier for me
to work Europe on CW in these conditions.
Tor
N4OGW
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On Wed, 1/24/18, Bob K0NR - email list <list@k0nr.com> wrote:
Subject: Re: [VHFcontesting] Thoughts on the Digital Modes and VHF Contesting
To: vhfcontesting@contesting.com
Date: Wednesday, January 24, 2018, 8:11 AM
There's another principle
well established in vhf contests: don't
discriminate between QSOs by mode.
None of the major VHF contests give you
different points based on
modulation/mode.
(In contrast,
Field Day gives more points for CW vs SSB.)
A Q is a Q, use whatever technique is most
effective and it will all
work out in the
end.
The irony is that FT8
is not as fast as CW or SSB so overuse of it will
slow you down.
Various people
have already made this point.
73, Bob K0NR
On 23-Jan-18 10:21 PM, Alan Larson wrote:
> It is part of the principle of the
contests that we give more multipliers
>
for making more difficult contacts. We get a few for local
contacts, and
> more for the distant ones
that require more skill.
>
> FT8 (and some of the other digital
modes) makes the distant contacts and
>
large number of multipliers much easier.
>
> Perhaps we
should disallow using those digital contacts for
multiplier
> credit. You still could
get QSO points for the contact, but to get the
> multiplier for the distant contact, you
need to use the more difficult
> mode.
This suggestion is unlikely to fly in this form, but perhaps
as an
> alternate, limit the number of
multipliers from digital to 5 or 10 percent
> of the total multipliers on a band. Say
if you get 30 multipliers on 6
> meters,
you can only claim 3 of them from digital contacts. That
way, it
> will allow digital for the
really hard ones, but the ones that can be done
> on traditional modes would be.
>
> Or perhaps
having digital contests or entries be separate from the
> non-computer processed modes.
>
> Alan
>
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