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Re: [VHFcontesting] The digital modes and the Sept contest

To: Jim Worsham <w4kxy@bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: [VHFcontesting] The digital modes and the Sept contest
From: Zack Widup <w9sz.zack@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2017 07:51:12 -0500
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My VHF operating is almost entirely portable. I like to go to local
hills (there are some around here!) I use a deep-cycle marine battery
as a power source. Except for very brief operations, running the
station and a computer from the battery runs it down too fast. So I
don't even bother taking a computer along. I log on paper and enter it
into the computer when I get home later.

So no digital modes for me on VHF. I wonder how well they work on
microwave frequencies, anyway. I hear stations now and then that don't
have phase-locked LO's and are way off the expected frequencies and
drift several kHz up and down as we work.

73, Zack W9SZ

On Wed, Sep 13, 2017 at 1:49 AM, Jim Worsham <w4kxy@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> Hello Kenny.  How is everything going?  Forget decades.  How about now!  I 
> see this all the time now at work.  The millennials would rather IM or email 
> you than talk to you.  God help you if you actually show up in their office 
> for a face-to-face.  You quickly become the creepy old guy.  I am not sure if 
> that is what is driving your experiences with the use of digital modes when 
> they aren't needed for weak signals but I wouldn't be surprised.  Bottom line 
> as I see it is digital modes will be good for bringing in new, younger blood 
> to the hobby but these younger millennial hams will not be like us older 
> folks.  I have two millennial children and they think different so don't try 
> to pressure them into the old ways of doing things.  My 2 cents.
>
> 73
> Jim, W4KXY
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>> On Sep 12, 2017, at 1:20 PM, winger55552001 via VHFcontesting 
>> <vhfcontesting@contesting.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> I agree.
>> One thing to note... the IM-like nature of digital appeals to younger 
>> hams.... it will be harder to get the introverts over to voice and cw as a 
>> few decades pass.
>> Randy, N0LD
>>
>>
>> Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
>>
>> -------- Original message --------
>> From: Kenneth Silverman <kenny.k2kw@gmail.com>
>> Date: 9/12/17  10:57 AM  (GMT-06:00)
>> To: vhfcontesting@contesting.com
>> Subject: Re: [VHFcontesting] The digital modes and the Sept contest
>>
>>> One can work QSOs much faster on SSB or CW and, from what I can see after
>>> using FT8 for several months during 6M E season, CW can also be copied by
>>> ear at lower signal levels then FT8 can reliably and repeatably decode.
>>
>> While I haven't used FT8 yet, the key takeaway is to operate CW/SSB when
>> the band (or your ears) will support it.  This past summer people were
>> staying on JT65 when that band was very open.
>>
>> Kenny K2KW
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